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« on: November 22, 2013, 08:21:30 AM »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/302-DZ-BLOCK-69-CAMARO-Z28-STD-BALANCED-ASSEMBLY-1178-CRANK-PISTONS-RODS-NO-RES-/231096495523?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35ce6cada3&vxp=mtr
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2013, 11:32:54 AM »

H21 9 is way too late for a 624 vin. Not crazy about the pad stamp, but I am no expert.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 11:42:56 AM »

H21 9 is way too late for a 624 vin. Not crazy about the pad stamp, but I am no expert.

Good catch..  I over looked it this morning when I was on ebay..
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 01:21:30 PM »

The deck appeared to have been decked, and the stamp was still very clear (deep), that raised an issue in my mind, but those things are difficult to tell from a photograph.   Maybe the seller misread a digit in the VIN (since it is apparently on the side of the block on the cast block surface..?
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2013, 09:46:42 PM »

I asked the seller to take better photographs of the VIN stamping, and also of the stamped deck.  He did, but still not good enough.    On his second look, he indicated the VIN might be 91N684xxx... which would put it in line with the casting/stamping dates...
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2013, 09:52:24 PM »

No sale 11-22-13...

Reserve not met = $4000.00

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 01:42:27 PM »

Stamp is good.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 09:38:28 PM »

Relisted 11-27-13...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&vxp=mtr&item=331075385972

Partial VIN:  19N684309

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 10:58:47 PM »

This auction a few days ago listed the VIN incorrectly, which several of us recognized as being impossible, leading many to believe the block was likely a restamp.  I contacted the ebay lister, and obtained better photographs, and he determined the VIN was actually as he's posted it now (verified partially via the better photo he supplied to me), and also he sent a good pad photo, which shows a good stamping, and evidence of original broach marks, and I told him I believed the engine was proper and original.  Kurt verified the stamping also as original below.  I was very interested in this engine, due to it's low wear condition (std block, std crank as checked by a machine shop), AND it's proximity to my own car and engine (The engine was assembled 2 days before my own, and the car VIN appears to also be 2 days or so in front of my car).   If someone knows of the car this engine came from, it would be an outstanding purchase... and also great to reunite the parts.   Smiley   Although I could not verify the complete VIN from the photo supplied, the owner says he is certain now that he has the VIN correct and would guarantee it's accuracy if the car owner can be found.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2013, 11:18:27 PM »

Hello Kurt,

The VIN on this block is actually 9N628309.   Do you have that VIN in your data base?   This auction runs for another day or so.  It would be great to get this engine reunited with the correct body.  It appears to be a totally original engine, with near zero wear... not ran since 1972, and the price seems very decent to me for what is included.   I'm hoping the original car owner is out there so I'm not tempted to buy this engine myself.  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 09:32:25 AM »

I'm not Kurt, but it's not in the DB.

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« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2013, 05:55:37 PM »

He included a pic of the VIN and it's not 628309.
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« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2013, 07:33:26 PM »

To me it looks like 19N681308 or 19N681309

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2013, 11:33:11 PM »

My apologies.. I typed it wrong.   THE RELISTED auction has it correct..      684309....
The owner told me that after a lot of effort, it was very clear to him what it was...
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2013, 09:52:04 AM »

Just an idea for seeing these part no.s on cast iron parts. I was trying to make out a part no. on a heat riser valve, and thought of using chalk to help bring out the numbers. Couldn't find any offhand, but I did have plaster of paris powder close by, so I sprinkled some on and brushed it off. It worked pretty well, actually, probably better than chalk.
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2013, 10:56:56 AM »

that makes sense, JDV..    I'll try that approach next time I have that trouble *S*
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60 Corvette white/red, 72 Corvette coupe (2), 
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2013, 01:48:40 PM »

My apologies.. I typed it wrong.   THE RELISTED auction has it correct..      684309....
That sure confused me, since the correct VIN was already listed in post #7.
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2013, 06:17:35 PM »

No sale 12-4-13...

Reserve not met = $4000.00

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