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Jerry@CHP

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Re: Original tires
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2013, 04:08:00 PM »
Bill, the only thing I would add to this is since 2009, I have now documented three cars with what, in my professional opinion are original spare tires to the car.  All three were March wheels and April dated Polyglas tires.  The original owner guy has stated to me many times that the spare is original to the car.  He has the car shipper with no mention of PL4, PL5, etc.  The first car that I saw with a Polyglas spare was a few years ago and he had no paperwork.  I have no reason to believe that is was not original to the car.  What I sense here is a trend that Polyglas tires did make their way on to the 1969 Camaro.  That's all.  I'm not saying that thousands got them or 10 cars got them..........only that I have found, what I call three credible cars with original spare tires.  John Kelsey can go into more detail about this.  He's been in the tire business for most of his life and I regard him as an accurate source for the hobby.  I have no connection to Kelsey tire.  I'm only trying to post research data as I find it and answer the original question that was posted on this thread.  That's it. 

As we know this Camaro hobby can be a humbling experience as we are always learning more as time goes by.  Case in point, the two survivor Z28s with mis-matching cylinder heads that I inspected two years ago.  If you would have told me that Flint engine built a 302 with one #186 head and one #041, I would have stated I don't think that is possible.  But now that two survivor original cars have been found with mis-matching heads, it appears that Flint engine did do this and probably not by choice at the time. 

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Re: Original tires
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2017, 11:59:28 AM »
I realize this topic is old but it seemed fitting. I'm at the point where I need to buy tires for my 08E 69 1969 SS396. Has anything else come to light as the correct tires I should be purchasing for this car? Thank you, Joe
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2017, 02:19:05 PM »
The standard tire would have been an F70 x 14 RWL. Could be Goodyear WTGT, Firestone Wide Oval, Uniroyal Tiger Paw. Only the Goodyear is available in repro and is the safe choice.

Optional was PL4, FG belted RWL F70 x 14 [Goodyear Polyglas one possibility], PW7 white stripe F70 x 14 and PW8 red stripe F70 x 14.

Still, no known documented '69 Camaro built with Goodyear Polyglas.

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Re: Original tires
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2017, 02:37:31 PM »
Ok. Thanks. I would only go with the Goodyears when it's time. I had one picture of the car when it was new & it had white line tires in the picture. I also question the picture as it had 14x6 wheels. The car sat at the dealer from Sept 1969 till June of 1970. Who knows what the dealer did during that time to make the car more sellable. Photo lost during divorce. Ex-wife now deceased. Thank you, Joe
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1968 Z/28 Corvette Bronze. Black Hounds Tooth. 02E Los Angeles born 3/13/1968 pnt OO. Purchased March 1976
1969 SS396 Yellow/Yellow 08E Norwood born 8/28/1969 pnt 76E. Purchased April 1981

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Re: Original tires
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2017, 03:42:13 PM »
The car sat at the dealer from Sept 1969 till June of 1970. Who knows what the dealer did during that time to make the car more sellable.

Dealers also swapped tires around per customer request. Check this notation from a Z/28 sales contract. Somewhere, there could be an early production Z/28 with Goodyear tires on YH wheels the original owner swears are original.


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Re: Original tires
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2017, 11:44:31 AM »
The standard tire would have been an F70 x 14 RWL. Could be Goodyear WTGT, Firestone Wide Oval, Uniroyal Tiger Paw. Only the Goodyear is available in repro and is the safe choice.

Optional was PL4, FG belted RWL F70 x 14 [Goodyear Polyglas one possibility], PW7 white stripe F70 x 14 and PW8 red stripe F70 x 14.

Still, no known documented '69 Camaro built with Goodyear Polyglas.
when I got my 69, the spare was a polyglas. the original owner, my parents, said it had never been replaced.
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2017, 04:15:05 PM »
Have you checked that spare for a DOT date code??  if so, what is it?  Does it predate your car's build?
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2017, 11:52:10 PM »
Have you checked that spare for a DOT date code??  if so, what is it?  Does it predate your car's build?
This was 25 years ago,
I don't know about the DOT code as it was not the same as we know today. I have YU written down in my documentation. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that is May? on an late June car
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2017, 03:13:27 AM »
'YU' could be for May 1969, but you really need to know all the letters/numbers in the code to properly decode the month and year Per this document:  (It's certainly not a simple code to interpret).. :)

http://anghelrestorations.com/uploads/3/1/7/6/3176630/goodyear_polyglas_tires_v1.3.pdf
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2017, 04:10:37 PM »
how about a link to decode a firestone sport 200. (I may have my original spare)
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2017, 04:59:34 PM »
Not one
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Re: Original tires
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2017, 07:50:45 PM »
In the tire world of the 1960's and 70's, each maker had their own coding.  I only have the coding for the Goodyear tires. 

With the discussion of the Polyglas being on Camaro/Chevelle in 1969,  we have had several cars from around the April 69 time frame pop up.  There are varying theories to this.  Polyglas were available to other car makes.  In fact, Chevy was the last to keep with the Speedway Wide Tread.  The Corvette maintained the Speedway until the radials came out in 1973.  It may have been a mandate from Goodyear, production stoppage of the Speedway and substitution of Polyglas.  Unfortunately, paperwork from Goodyear and Chevy has not materialized. 

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