Z10

[69houdini]

Can someone take a look at the Z10 on ebay and give me their opinion on the cowl tag? This car looks interesting to me and is not to far away. Any comments or questions would be appreciated, Thanks

[1968RSZ28]

Here's the link...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z10-SS-RS-Rare-Z10-Camaro-mid-restoration-/131024598116?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e81acb464&item=131024598116&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Paul

[cook_dw]

No vin, floor appears to have been patched with an auto tunnel, its heater delete but with welded in blank firewall..  Tag looks ok (but would like to see a better bigger pic) but I have my doubts about the engine & trans.  Liked to see the vin and hidden vin (at least on the top of the cowl.  Too many ?? at this point..

[69Z28-RS]

Man, if you can see a missing VIN plate from those pix, then you are an 'eagle eye'..  *G*   

[ko-lek-tor]

Man, if you can see a missing VIN plate from those pix, then you are an 'eagle eye'..  *G*   

I think what was meant is since no Vin is provided, it makes it hard to compare with Trim Tag body build # and date aligning. My first thought is if someone is so knowledgeable about the Z10 option, why can't he verify if the drivetrain is # matching? Seems that he leaves out just enough info to make me want to question car.i am not saying it is fake, because there is not enough info, but as knowledgeable as the owner seems...just saying.

[bertfam]

It's also listed on the Riverside, CA Craigslist for $35k, but before that it was listed for $33k so his price has gone up!

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4136881149.html

In my opinion, it's not worth half that.

By the way, the VIN is 124379N634632 and it's been on ebay several times since 2006.

Ed

[Mark]

"Mid restoration Z10 needing paint touch up and very few miscellaneous parts to complete"

36,500 seems a bit steep for a non assembled car, needing just some paint touch up and a few miscellaneous parts to complete.  I see a complete paint job, and nothing but parts in boxes.  In the condition its in he's about 15K high.

[69Z28-RS]

Man, if you can see a missing VIN plate from those pix, then you are an 'eagle eye'..  *G*   

I think what was meant is since no Vin is provided, it makes it hard to compare with Trim Tag body build # and date aligning. My first thought is if someone is so knowledgeable about the Z10 option, why can't he verify if the drivetrain is # matching? Seems that he leaves out just enough info to make me want to question car.i am not saying it is fake, because there is not enough info, but as knowledgeable as the owner seems...just saying.

Yes, I suspect that's what he meant.. and I misinterpreted..     Thanks..

[cook_dw]

It's also listed on the Riverside, CA Craigslist for $35k, but before that it was listed for $33k so his price has gone up!

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4136881149.html

In my opinion, it's not worth half that.

By the way, the VIN is 124379N634632 and it's been on ebay several times since 2006.

Ed

Thanks Ed.  Yes I wasnt sure if the car had been listed before.  I still question the engine & trans..

[69houdini]

Thanks for the input, he's about 60 miles away and a lot of questions, Thanks

[bertfam]

I still question the engine & trans..

When it was on ebay back in 06, it was just a rolling shell that had been partially restored and painted. No engine or transmission mentioned.

Ed

[BULLITT65]

Thanks for all the info on this car Ed. What a website where you can inquire about a potential purchase, and be told the last 7 years of buy/sell history!!
I have seen Kurt do this as well for engines, and besides a great aid to our members, just plain impressive. WTG CRG!

[MyRed67]

Thanks for all the info on this car Ed. What a website where you can inquire about a potential purchase, and be told the last 7 years of buy/sell history!!
I have seen Kurt do this as well for engines, and besides a great aid to our members, just plain impressive. WTG CRG!

Agreed!!!

[janobyte]

Ditto !

[KurtS]

It was an AC car. Was said to have been raced and had no trans or engine, but appeared to have been a BB.
But on a Z10 or Z11, BB is hard to prove.
Car has gone from MO to MI to TX to CA - still hasn't found a home.

[BULLITT65]

Again good info. Thanks for the continued looking out for a fellow CRG member.

[wtexz10]

Wow, that's a pretty heady price for a questionable car in need of full assembly and paint!   Makes me feel better about mine if he gets it. 

[sdkar]

Now, I may be wrong here, but I am willing to bet this car was once a small block/automatic car.  First, the fact that the tunnel and pedals are for an automatic kinda back up this point.  If the tunnel was replaced or patched, then they did a darn nice job and I cannot see any seams that would indicate a patch put in place.  The hole on the tunnel is for an automatic as well.  Also, I have been tracking Z11's and Z10's for several years now and have a reasonable list going.  One thing I have noticed is that with the Z10's, they are built in lots of small blocks and big blocks, meaning that they did not build just one big block Z10 in the middle of a small block Z10 run and reverse.  In my list, I see several 350's being made, and then several 396's being made.  If this car were indeed a 396 car, it would be the only big block car made in the middle of a small block z10 production run.

Again, my list is not complete and comprenhensive, but if I go by the info I do have, than this car is either a small block car, or an anomoly. 

For the seller to advertise this car as a big block/manual trans car seems to be sketchy to me.  He advertises the engine and trans as "date coded" but cannot verify the partial VIN.  Without the drivetrain in place, no one can make this claim.  Having a date coded engine and trans does not mean the car is originally a big block car with manual transmission.  This car may very well have been a small block car with auto transmission.  The items that would indicate this car as a big block or a manual transmission car are somehow missing or in contradiciton.  The lack of the heater box, the pedals and trans tunnel for an automatic, etc.   

Also, according to the info I have, this car should have a black custom (comfortweave) interior, not white as provided with the car. 

Again, I may be wrong.  I can only go on what limited information I have.