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« on: September 21, 2013, 05:13:14 PM »

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/4081817876.html
Comments ? How long was this thing in the canal before they pulled it out ?
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 05:24:41 PM »

$7500?
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 06:35:03 PM »

Pity there's no picture of the trim tag.
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 06:47:18 PM »

doesn't look to bad. I would love to have a X55 car. if I had the room I would take it. $7500 is an asking price.....
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 10:50:00 PM »

Asked him for a pic of the cowl tag. Here is our banter so far below. Waiting for new response.. Danny

  Please email a clear close up picture of the trim tag on the cowl. Thanx..


   I would prefer if you came look at it so it won't be on the Internet


    Why would that matter? There are thousands online right now all over the world. Itís not like your posting your social. All it does is show some things about the car, some options, color of car, trim, what number in the sequence the car was built, etc. You do know the VIN is not on the cowl tag right?...
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2013, 11:52:39 AM »

His reply to my last question. AND, my next question to him... Danny

  I would have to get it tomorrow and send you the picture


  Ok, sounds good. It would also really be good to have the VIN. Cause that helps tie it all in. Itís not a big money car by any means. So itís not like somebody is going to track it down and try to come steal it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 01:34:14 PM »

I see the asking price is $6500. "how many  camaros are left on (on the road) ?" This car will be bought and be put back on the road. It seems like a first gen camaro has to practically crumbling into the ground for one not to be restored, or stored for a future resto. I (still) have a 66 Chevelle SS that I bought back in the day that was pretty similar condition I did a quick aerosol overhaul of the engine compartment, and interior, dropped in an extra 396 I had laying around, & traded a fender for a muncie 4 speed. by the time I had it on the road I think I had about 1200 to 1300 into it and I drove the piss out of it for the next 6 years. My point being is: it was an affordable 60's muscle car that ended up turning low 12's in the 1/4 for very little cost.  My car might have been in a little worse condition to start with, and at a minimum I could see someone doing the same with this car.
I don't have a digital image of the car when I bought yet, but here is another one of my 66's that is just a tad better condition, but you get the idea.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 04:45:36 PM »

Sorry if my original post seemed kind of sarcastic. Maybe I'm just bitter that I sent a 69 away to the crusher that still had a usable roof,firewall, and cowl tag. Just seems at some point to be too far gone. 1f you have to replace 75% of the sheet metal, 100% of the running gear and interior, 90% of the glass and 100% of the trim, what do you really have?
I guess that's why I kept the VIN and Cowl tag from the one I sent it away.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 05:14:59 PM »

I hear you on the 20/20 rear view. All I'm saying is on almost any of these projects, replacing the interior is a given, glass can be saved most of the time, or can be found relatively easy, motor/trani again pretty easy.
Ok so now the meat of the argument the sheet metal:So if a car has poor sheet metal,  One guy may say "junk the car", another may say just replace enough to get it on the road, ( I have a friend who just fixes the metal enough to make them a 20 ft road worthy car), another may go front to back giving it necessary sheet metal. It just depends on the guy, and his initial investment in the car.
But I will tell you this if you have a good roof and firewall, and vin, you throw some full quarters on it, and it may seem like your half way done at that point and over the hump.
I have another friend that bought a plain jane 65 mustang coupe. (original v8 car). And replaced A LOT of metal on that car, we both learned to mig weld on that car. He basically saved it from the junk yard, because he liked that body style and got a deal on the rolling chassis.

The right buyer has a dream of what it will look like done, and sometimes it is the journey of bringing the car back that is worth more than the first drive when you get it done

(1964 C/10- the only original metal on the this truck is the radiator support and frame. 7 or 8 rusty long beds and 1 short bed gave their life so my truck could see the road rust free)
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 05:24:17 PM »

Here is the cowl tag. I am surprised he cut the upper right side off to protect the production number. That's a red flag already....I don't know what the hell he thinks he has. This thing is pretty much a pile of crap. I wonder how many people died in that thing. Grin... Danny
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 05:10:44 AM »

I don't think he cut it. He just stuck an index card or piece of paper over the corner. If there is a problem with what is shown, I don't see it.
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 12:53:09 PM »

I meant he cut that part out. Not literally cut the tag. I think your right, he set an index card on top and took the pic. Funny I don't know what he's trying to hide. I sent another email asking for the VIN, we'll see.... Danny
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 04:29:18 PM »

Tags looks good....
To some degree, I can understand why sellers are wary of supplying photos to "tag chasers", especially if the requester of the photos has no interest at all in buying the car, and the seller later finds it the subject of discussion on an Internet forum.
I understand the motivation for assisting those who track VINs and TTs, and find the dark side of the hobby - fooling people with fake cars - disgusting, but I can also see why some sellers are reluctant to provide VIN and tag details to strangers via email.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 04:39:34 PM »

He is hiding "fisher" from "BODY BY FISHER* doesn't want you to suspect that a fisherman found it under water!!!
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 05:28:53 PM »

Tags looks good....
To some degree, I can understand why sellers are wary of supplying photos to "tag chasers", especially if the requester of the photos has no interest at all in buying the car, and the seller later finds it the subject of discussion on an Internet forum.
I understand the motivation for assisting those who track VINs and TTs, and find the dark side of the hobby - fooling people with fake cars - disgusting, but I can also see why some sellers are reluctant to provide VIN and tag details to strangers via email.

I don't know about that. If there is nothing to hide, show both tags and good pics of the car and get it sold.
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« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2013, 12:26:38 AM »

That's what I say, ya wanna sell it or not. He never got back to me...Danny
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« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2013, 06:21:57 AM »

1f you have to replace 75% of the sheet metal, 100% of the running gear and interior, 90% of the glass and 100% of the trim, what do you really have?
I guess that's why I kept the VIN and Cowl tag from the one I sent it away.
You'd have a rebuilt car.

If a '69 got popped in a different corner or side every 2 months for two years since new, and repaired correctly each time, you'd have the same thing. Doubtful anyone would junk the car in 2014 if it was discovered many panels were no longer original. As long as the seller discloses the rebuild information I see no issue with it. A car with all original tin can be found if a person prefers.
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2014, 02:09:10 PM »

old topic, but I believe this is the same car up for sale again. Not sure what it is, but I always seem to remember the turds when they come back up for sale. Lately, there has been a bunch of them to! Wink
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2014, 05:46:55 PM »

old topic, but I believe this is the same car up for sale again. Not sure what it is, but I always seem to remember the turds when they come back up for sale. Lately, there has been a bunch of them to! Wink
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/4390876207.html
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2014, 06:47:15 PM »

Should be body color on the back not black right?
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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2014, 07:27:44 PM »

Big block car? That things a mess. Looks like an ohio car
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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 08:25:21 PM »

Guys like Gary will happily pay $6500.00 for that pile simple because it is Hugger Orange!

LOL!  Grin

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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2014, 08:29:44 PM »

the paint might be the only thing holding it together.... Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2014, 09:32:44 PM »

It's on eBay too...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Camaro-X55-SS-REAL-Super-Sport-Hugger-Orange-project-/231189871655?_trksid=p2054897.l4275

Listed VIN: 124379N5987xx

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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2014, 09:40:09 PM »

Guys like Gary will happily pay $6500.00 for that pile simple because it is Hugger Orange!

LOL!  Grin

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now Paul!   Is that fair?   Smiley

Actually I did 'meet' on the road today a good looking H.O. with white stripe Z28 (at least to zoom by appearances)... Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2014, 12:11:28 AM »

That tells me the weather has improved in your area enough where we should be expecting to see pics of yours on the road, right??
( hoping your getting close)
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2014, 12:09:03 PM »

Looks like it came from here:
http://archive.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=124161
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2014, 12:29:27 PM »

Or Here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/skeletons-found-salvaged-oklahoma-cars-match-6-missing-decades-article-1.1482645
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2014, 12:49:55 PM »

James, here's the Camaro and owner before the lake.....
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2014, 01:26:19 PM »

That tells me the weather has improved in your area enough where we should be expecting to see pics of yours on the road, right??
( hoping your getting close)

My Camaro preservation and re-assembly efforts have been delayed (probably until past July).   Two weeks ago, I decided I needed to *finish* the restoration of a '57 Nomad (that was delayed after most body work completed around 20 yrs ago.. Smiley ).   My goal is to drive it to the Chevrolet Nomad Association (CNA) Convention in Chattanooga TN in mid July.. Smiley
and it's going to be EVERY DAY between now and then trying to meet that goal.  I've got a few pix made the past couple of weeks on Photobucket if you want to take a look.. Smiley

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Two weeks into it..   13 weeks to go...  Smiley

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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2014, 01:30:50 PM »

Well, good luck with the Nomad then.
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2014, 01:36:01 PM »

That tells me the weather has improved in your area enough where we should be expecting to see pics of yours on the road, right??
( hoping your getting close)

My Camaro preservation and re-assembly efforts have been delayed (probably until past July).   Two weeks ago, I decided I needed to *finish* the restoration of a '57 Nomad (that was delayed after most body work completed around 20 yrs ago.. Smiley ).   My goal is to drive it to the Chevrolet Nomad Association (CNA) Convention in Chattanooga TN in mid July.. Smiley
and it's going to be EVERY DAY between now and then trying to meet that goal.  I've got a few pix made the past couple of weeks on Photobucket if you want to take a look.. Smiley

http://s509.photobucket.com/user/GaryDW/library/57%20Nomad%20Progress?sort=3&page=1

Two weeks into it..   13 weeks to go...  Smiley
What in particular are you looking for when you come to Charlotte? 
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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2014, 01:40:14 PM »

That tells me the weather has improved in your area enough where we should be expecting to see pics of yours on the road, right??
( hoping your getting close)

My Camaro preservation and re-assembly efforts have been delayed (probably until past July).   Two weeks ago, I decided I needed to *finish* the restoration of a '57 Nomad (that was delayed after most body work completed around 20 yrs ago.. Smiley ).   My goal is to drive it to the Chevrolet Nomad Association (CNA) Convention in Chattanooga TN in mid July.. Smiley
and it's going to be EVERY DAY between now and then trying to meet that goal.  I've got a few pix made the past couple of weeks on Photobucket if you want to take a look.. Smiley

http://s509.photobucket.com/user/GaryDW/library/57%20Nomad%20Progress?sort=3&page=1

Two weeks into it..   13 weeks to go...  Smiley
What in particular are you looking for when you come to Charlotte? 

Complete interior kit (red/black), front end rebuild kit, all suspension bushings, body mounting rubber, and a few odds and ends, although I am still sorting thru and itemizing all the parts I have from 20 yrs ago.. Smiley   Fortunately I have new glass and all my chrome was redone back then... and I have lots of NOS parts to use in reassembly.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2014, 02:33:50 PM »

Hey Gary, I had a 57 Nomad back in the 70's. 327/4 spd Muncie 488's. What a beast to drive. Always dreamed of another shoebox, but now I don't think it's going to happen. Still in possession of a Hurst Competition Plus shifter I bought in 1973 that was in the Nomad. Couldn't part with it. I'm thinking it may be time to part with it. Amazing what they cost these days. The entire shifter including linkage rods, etc, cost me $62.50 back then. Now they are so expensive, they have to sell them in halves: shifter, and then rod kit.
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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2014, 02:49:17 PM »

Jimmy that is a very similar set up I had in my 55. I ended up running the 327, M21, and I am guessing it is a 4:10 in my 64 C/10, great combo but now I need to be able to stop the beast so looking at suspension and brake packages, from Scotts Hot rods and customs. All square tube front cross members and tig welded, everything made or sourced in the USA. Not cheap but you get what you pay for, many options to customize it to your needs/wants.
I just wanted to agree with you on the 327 4 speed comments, awesome set up.
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2014, 09:24:26 PM »

Hey Gary, I had a 57 Nomad back in the 70's. 327/4 spd Muncie 488's. What a beast to drive. Always dreamed of another shoebox, but now I don't think it's going to happen. Still in possession of a Hurst Competition Plus shifter I bought in 1973 that was in the Nomad. Couldn't part with it. I'm thinking it may be time to part with it. Amazing what they cost these days. The entire shifter including linkage rods, etc, cost me $62.50 back then. Now they are so expensive, they have to sell them in halves: shifter, and then rod kit.

I fell in love with Nomads when I saw my first one (matador red '57) in 1968.. and I've wanted one like it every since.  I bought this one in '88, worked on it 5 yrs, then let work, travel, family and other projects shove it to the side..  now it's time to JUST DO IT..  Smiley..
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