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« on: September 18, 2013, 02:38:40 PM »

Is this car in the data base and any info available?
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2013, 04:33:47 PM »

It's been on ebay a few times.
I've never seen pic, but they said #'s match.
Next time on ebay, the car had a POP. No mention of it the first time - depending on the seller they may not have known what it was.....or it's new.

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 05:30:21 PM »

http://www.classicmusclecars.com/cgi-bin/swrm/det.cgi?id=673

http://www.2040cars.com/chevrolet/Camaro/1969-camaro-dz-z28-authentic-certified-maching-s-302-cu-beautiful-260779/

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 05:57:41 PM »

Are you looking to purchase it? how much are they asking?
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 08:49:57 PM »

It's been on ebay a few times.
I've never seen pic, but they said #'s match.
Next time on ebay, the car had a POP. No mention of it the first time - depending on the seller they may not have known what it was.....or it's new.



At least it shows a certificate by Jerry - must be authentic and a matcher.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 09:19:32 AM »

Latest owner says its too much car for him to handle. He got a bid of 60K at Mecum in Dallas and passed. He had a 75K reserve, don't think the car is worth that much.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 10:02:15 AM »

Other than them adding the hood and the wheel trim, what else is holding the car back?
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2013, 02:52:08 PM »

He replaced original brake booster and master cylinder, and didn't keep them. Has 14" wheels, spray painted hood hinges and latch. Needs proper exhuast.
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2013, 05:24:16 PM »

Nice looking car. Built the day after mine
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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 01:06:47 PM »

The other thing with that mecum auction to figure in, is the sellers premium. I am pretty sure Mecum dings the buyer and the seller. Thats why when they are putting the pressure on a guy to lift his reserve he will go back to mecum (or RM or Barret) and cut the percentage of their take down to get it sold. The brake booster, master and a set of wheels may only cost the seller a thousand or so, but I could see it scaring off a few buyers who want a correctly done car to add to their collection. Those couple of items could add thousands or a couple more bids at auction to meet his reserve.
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 10:56:22 PM »

At least it shows a certificate by Jerry - must be authentic and a matcher.
Never assume that.
You have to read the whole appraisal. I actually dislike that Jerry makes those certificates. They really don't tell anything, but it's what people show.
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2013, 08:46:15 PM »

how does an alternator with a 9DZ date code translate into April 3rd 1969? assuming the Z is actually a 2 wouldn't that be April 2nd??
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2013, 10:51:34 PM »

At least it shows a certificate by Jerry - must be authentic and a matcher.
Never assume that.
You have to read the whole appraisal. I actually dislike that Jerry makes those certificates. They really don't tell anything, but it's what people show.

Kurt,

   I don't like to assume anything - I do have to bow to Jerry's knowledge and experience, plus the fact he hangs his reputation on the line every time he prints one of those. Maybe I should have stated "the car has to be pretty close to earn a certificate" ?

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2013, 02:32:41 AM »

I have seen similar certificates from Jerry. This would be an example of what I mean:
- you have example A 1969 Camaro Z/28 non numbers matching or unverifiable because say Jerry couldn't read the vin stamp by the oil filter
-you have example B 1969 Camaro Z/28 all numbers matching drive train.

I both cases Jerry will issue a certificate saying that he finds the  car is an original Z/28 on the certificate
*now it is unclear the difference between the 2 cars until you read each report that accompanies said certificate. "The differences are in the details" of his report.

Now Jerry has seen more Camaros than I ever will up close and personal, and he knows a great detail about the model, but I have seen say ...corrections he has made in subsequent reports on the same car. So I agree with Kurt in the fact that you do not want to assume. I think most of his reports are correct, but nobody is right 100% of the time. 
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2013, 10:08:15 PM »

Bought in 78 from original owner,VIN 124379N640310 X55, 0429HB engine matching # on oil filter ,non matching tranny,newbie been lurking for a while,1st post. VIN # got my attention as it is so close to mine. Awesome forum.so much knowledge. Turning redneck 401K's (stamp collection,FDC collection,militaria collection,coin collection,and som other collectibles I won't mention into Cash for Camaro restoration fund. And I still need more money. between here and Team Camaro forums I wonder if I will have enough time or money to start and finish my car?
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2013, 10:13:38 PM »

Hey welcome to the site! A suggestion: post a few pictures for us and tell us your plan for what you like to have done.....
Congrats on finding the site, we are here to help.
I look forward to seeing your car on here . Cheesy
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1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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