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Sheetmetal Date Code
« on: September 15, 2013, 08:56:09 AM »
I was stripping down a used driver's side door from a '69 today, when I noticed that the inner panel of the door shell had 2 different date codes stamped on it. I've added some photos, showing the location of the 2 stamps (circled in red) and each of the two date stamps. How come there is a gap of several weeks (from week '39' to '43') between the stamps? The 'H39 1' stamp is upright and the 'H43' is upside-down.
Tim - 04A VN '69 z/28 69-69 715 ex-E/MP

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 05:00:40 PM »
Good question - I haven't seen a Fisher Body Run Number double-stamped before; that date marker is recessed in a machined pocket in the draw die (where it also serves as a proof mark for draw punch travel).
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2013, 07:23:49 AM »
Just checked passenger side door, came from the same donor car, and it has 2 different date codes too.
Nobody else come across this?
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2013, 07:56:59 PM »
Yes, My LH door has a H49 on top H50 on bottom. Now I am going from memory and those numbers may not be exact. The car is up on my lift right now and there is a car undeneath, so I cannot look at it. It is the original door and it is a 12B Norwood car. Door panel is off as I am waiting to get bodywork done. I thought it was odd when I saw it, but was hesitant to post as I am still new to posting pics.I have 2 other cars with original sheetmetal I can check, if I get time.
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2013, 09:14:38 PM »
Thanks for the reply, and yes if you get a chance, it would be nice to know if your other cars have the same issue.
Tim - 04A VN '69 z/28 69-69 715 ex-E/MP

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2013, 09:16:00 PM »
Mines apart right now so I can check the doors for ( 68) difference ?  I do have a question. While it's apart I'm documenting all the numbers ,taking pics and sending copies to Ed B. Concerning the sheet metal: are all panels/pieces stamped ? Front clip etc...? It's all OE and wonderful shape so somewhere I want it noted. I know doors ,hood---can't find it on fenders ,valiance, etc. My body man is also shooting pics and leaving the undersides untouched. Lots of inspection markings. Anyway I'll get those pics of the doors posted in the near future--Saturday.

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2013, 11:59:03 PM »
My 01C Norwood built '69 RS is currently in paint and body.  Driver (LH) door has one stamp (H34) - at the bottom.  Couldn't find andy stamp on the passenger door.
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2013, 03:16:44 AM »
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2013, 03:23:13 AM »
Concerning the sheet metal: are all panels/pieces stamped ? Front clip etc...? It's all OE and wonderful shape so somewhere I want it noted. I know doors ,hood---can't find it on fenders ,valiance, etc.
As far as I know, all original sheetmetal parts have a date stamp, although I haven't checked my entire car yet. So far, I have found the following:
Quarters are stamped in the weatherstrip gutter area, near the rear window filler panel joint;
Trunk lid stamped on the underside stiffener brace near the centerline;
Doors - as shown in pictures above;
Header panel - stamped on underside, just to one side of the centerline;
Valance - I recall it is stamped on one end, where it bolts to fender extn, but will have to check;
Roof skin side support structure - driver's side, towards rear of door glass.
Fenders and fender extensions - haven't had a close look for these yet.
Tim - 04A VN '69 z/28 69-69 715 ex-E/MP

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2013, 03:58:47 AM »
thanks for the reply

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 06:11:04 AM »
janobyte;
  (quote);Concerning the sheet metal: are all panels/pieces stamped ? Front clip etc...? It's all OE and wonderful shape so somewhere I want it noted. I know doors ,hood---can't find it on fenders ,valiance, etc.(quote)
  I am attaching a picture of where the Dr. Front Fender date code is on my '67.  Pass. Front Fender is in similar position. They are 3/8 in. letters and not stamped very deep.
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2013, 09:20:01 PM »
Found a couple more stamps over the weekend. Fenders are stamped exactly where Mike's are, in the above photo, and both seat back braces are stamped in the center, about half way between the rectangular hole (near the bottom) and where the 'Y' fork occurs.
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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2013, 09:46:41 PM »
Thanks again, didn't have a chance to get those door pics, will get to it this week.

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 10:20:38 PM »
Took pics of the doors today, 1# on driver's , 2#s on pass. Will post tomorrow. Fenders are primed, not going to sand for number ( guy painting my car would blow a gasket if I did) Plus he's shooting  as he's stripping( showing no filler) Knows what to look for ,might already have them.

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Re: Sheetmetal Date Code
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 09:54:08 PM »
driver,pass 68