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« on: September 09, 2013, 11:03:41 AM »

came from the same dealership as my special paint Z/28.b http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-1968-CAMARO-Z28-TANGERINE-ORANGE-AND-STRIPE-DELETE-/281160200929?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item41767432e1#ht_1178wt_1096
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2013, 05:43:55 PM »

cool car for sure and I don't even like Z's or 68's.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2013, 07:37:15 PM »

Cool camaro, and I don't even like cars....j/k
i like hugger orange, not so sure about tangerine. Looks a little to much like orange sherbert to me.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2013, 04:02:52 AM »

Wheels painted body color  Huh
Relisted with start bid of $50k, B.I.N of $100k:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/281165679606
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2013, 10:47:23 AM »

From seller's listing...

"CAR WAS APPRASIED FOR MORE THAN $130000-DUE TO THE FACT IT IS 1 OF 3 THAT WERE ORDERED IN 1968 WITH STRIPE DELETE AND THIS COLOR"

"CAR ALSO HAS ORIG SHOCKS,FACTORY PAINTED WHEELS AND SPARE"

Would the factory have painted the rally wheels orange?

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2013, 11:02:29 AM »

If the factory (assembly plant) painted the delivered Kelsey wheels a different color, that would be the FIRST time I've heard of it.  when I saw that car, I assumed the wheels were painted more recently to match the car..  for some Huh  oddball reason.. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2013, 09:54:17 PM »

A friend of mine had an unmolested original paint 1968 Z/28 long ago (actually belonged to another friend of mine before him).  It was Carolina Blue with the - - paint code and body colored rally wheels, incuding the original spare tire (before he stripped the car and painted it black).  Only one I've ever seen in person with body colored rallies. 

FYI - This was an early '68 Z with the 302 emblems on the fenders.  Charlie
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2013, 04:28:41 PM »

I remember it being a short lived fad some years ago to shoot the wheels the body color, from the factory, doesn't make sense considering the build process ,however I do not know for sure ,there are some that would on this site. Wouldn't they shoot the spare  Huh You know ,get caught in one lie ,more  to follow. Side note ,love to see a rare color  ,stripe delete , 68 z going for over 100K. Where do I sign up?!
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2013, 03:38:12 PM »

I've seen other 68 Z's with body colored rally's. No good idea why...
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2013, 04:17:41 PM »

From seller's listing...

"CAR WAS APPRASIED FOR MORE THAN $130000-DUE TO THE FACT IT IS 1 OF 3 THAT WERE ORDERED IN 1968 WITH STRIPE DELETE AND THIS COLOR"

"CAR ALSO HAS ORIG SHOCKS,FACTORY PAINTED WHEELS AND SPARE"

Would the factory have painted the rally wheels orange?

Paul

The ad also says the car was certified and appraised by Jerry. I wonder if he will add his comments here on the site?
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2013, 11:37:25 AM »

I've seen other 68 Z's with body colored rally's. No good idea why...

Have any been found with a Broadcast sheet which indicates anything besides Argent on Rallies... that would be awesome.
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2013, 10:10:55 PM »

No. Sad
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2013, 03:57:20 AM »

"On the issues with Jerry" section of the Ebay report, check the 4th paragraph in which the distributor number is short one numeric. 
It is most likely a (1) ..  All else is sooo specific..  Mebbee a typo.?.?
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2013, 05:26:42 AM »

"On the issues with Jerry" section of the Ebay report, check the 4th paragraph in which the distributor number is short one numeric. 
It is most likely a (1) ..  All else is sooo specific..  Mebbee a typo.?.?
he made a mistake on my Z/28 so why not on this one ??
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2013, 07:13:53 AM »

Does anyone know if it sold, and where it went?
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2013, 11:15:16 AM »

I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting sick of "Motorman's" snide comments bashing Jerry. You were doing it over at "TC"  and they told you stop, now you do it over here? If you don't have anything constructive to say don't say anything at all. JMO
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2013, 11:39:44 AM »

I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting sick of "Motorman's" snide comments bashing Jerry. You were doing it over at "TC"  and they told you stop, now you do it over here? If you don't have anything constructive to say don't say anything at all. JMO


So what is the basis for his (Motorman) comments? 
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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2013, 11:54:08 AM »

he had a 69 Z that was special order paint, that he says was a 1965 Evening Orchid paint originally, and Jerry has said he saw in daylight by the weather striping and under the vinyl top on a previous inspection that the original color was silver (not midnight orchid). So motorman has started this thread showing a different special order paint 68 camaro that was sold at the same dealership, in order to give credence to his opinion that his former car was special ordered with the evening orchid color.
I am not saying Motorman is right, and I know Jerry has made errors in the past as well, just stating what I have seen posted. It is on team camaro, like 15 pages...
I am unsure if it is justified but,
 It would be safe to say Motorman has an axe to grind...
                                                                              ......how many pages on our forum it will take up is yet to be determined.
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Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
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Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2013, 11:57:44 AM »

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776    Go over to "TC" and read the story on the 69 Z/28 Barn Find. Very interesting story and good reading if you can put up with "Motorman's" attitude.
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2013, 12:20:24 PM »

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776    Go over to "TC" and read the story on the 69 Z/28 Barn Find. Very interesting story and good reading if you can put up with "Motorman's" attitude.


Damn...I posted a few of my own comments in that thread when the discussion of the color first started getting heated up, then I quit reading it, I should have kept up. I had no idea it got that heated. So I missed a lot then, and can see that a lot of Motorman's comments were deleted as well as some other folks. My interest is a little peaked now on what he said, I assuming about Jerry M? I find it a bit amusing that someone can sit behind a computer where they know nobody can get to them and say anything they want without getting a punch in the eye. The computer age took a lot out of physical face to face and confrontation.
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2013, 12:39:14 PM »

Not to cause any more problems with this, bit I have an observation, something I noticed on the color that is being discussed...I'm wondering if the tint, if that is what makes the color difference, of the Evening Orchid is difficult for some to see and some think it is Silver. When I first saw the pic of the Camaro in question, my first thought was EO, then I went by what I was reading in the TC thread and said OK, Cortez Silver. So, I went to look at my car, which is Cortez Silver and still has original paint in the door jambs and I'm thinking just by looking at those pics of the Z in question, it has to be EO? My wife and my son both have a problem seeing tint. If you put mist green and mist blue, mid 60's GM colors, in front of them neither one can tell you what color they are. My wife looks at green and says it's blue and my son says blue when it's green. I tell them both they need to get a color blindness check. Is it possible for this to happen where light shades are difficult to see?  
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2013, 10:16:59 PM »

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776    Go over to "TC" and read the story on the 69 Z/28 Barn Find. Very interesting story and good reading if you can put up with "Motorman's" attitude.

FYI..  'Motorman' (Clem) is a great guy, and knows more about cars and engines (especially performance) than probably any 10 of us on this site..   He 'developed' that 'attitude' due to his belief that he was being called a 'liar' some some parties, or not knowing what he purchased, when he knew damn well what he purchased.   He told me about that car (along with John Z and others) several years ago, well before this issue came up on TC and here.   I'd advise Clem to 'let it go' and people will come around, because his story is correct and anyone who isn't 'color blind' can tell that even from the photos that were posted on TC.   and I'd adise others to give Clem some credit, and not get on his case.   HOW would you react if someone called you a liar or a 'no nothing' in a public forum?
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2013, 10:33:17 PM »

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207776    Go over to "TC" and read the story on the 69 Z/28 Barn Find. Very interesting story and good reading if you can put up with "Motorman's" attitude.

FYI..  'Motorman' (Clem) is a great guy, and knows more about cars and engines (especially performance) than probably any 10 of us on this site..   He 'developed' that 'attitude' due to his belief that he was being called a 'liar' some some parties, or not knowing what he purchased, when he knew damn well what he purchased.   He told me about that car (along with John Z and others) several years ago, well before this issue came up on TC and here.   I'd advise Clem to 'let it go' and people will come around, because his story is correct and anyone who isn't 'color blind' can tell that even from the photos that were posted on TC.   and I'd adise others to give Clem some credit, and not get on his case.   HOW would you react if someone called you a liar or a 'no nothing' in a public forum?



 HOW would you react if someone called you a liar or a 'no nothing' in a public forum?

Knowing myself as well as I do?...I would probably just chuckle and call them an idiot. I always say you can't judge a book by its cover and a lot of people I've run into think they know something, but they don't. Heck, even I don't know everything, but I would never call anyone a liar, seen too many people wearing a fist in their eye in my lifetime.
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2013, 08:33:15 AM »

i am most likely the only person on this site that owned a new 68 and new 69  Z/28 ...................
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2013, 09:03:12 AM »

Clem,
I know this was a huge discussion on other sites. Keep it factual or the thread will be closed.
Thanks!
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