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1969 paint code 52 Garnet Red, need help!
Bryan302:
I need help from some of you veteran restorers. I have a Garnet Red 69 Z/28 in the disassembly stages. I have collected information from several paint suppliers, and the first was a Sherwin Williams Ultra 7000, and second Metalux Basecoat. The chip the computer came up with for 52 Garnet Red was SR 640, but there was a Kagillion shades close to the SR 640. I actually have been a PPG/Ditzler fan and would like to use PPG BC/CC. My question to the CRG is what chip has been found to be the closest to the original 52 code Garnet Red? Is this same code as in SR 640 the shade across the board for all brands of paint for code 52?
Secondly, Does the interior color, which happens to be red also, have a paint code? This car has red deluxe interior and I will need to paint the dash, dash cluster, console, etc. How do you find out what shade of red this would be? What kind of paint has been found the best for painting the plastic parts like the dash cluster and the console?
Third, I have a question about the Z/28 stripes. What do the judges say about modern paint jobs with BC/CC and the stripes being part of the paint job. Originally the stripes were raised and could be felt by the touch. Is this modern Technology a factor that is accepted by the Judges? Or is there a procedure for this?
Thank You in advance,
Bryan
firstgenaddict:
ok if you have original paint on the cowl sides or etc have the paint scanned by your paint jobber.
Then spray out test panels to ensure color match, they will be closest if you have your original paint scanned.
You may have to try a few different mixtures or tint options to get the correct match, solid (non metallic colors) are much easier, but be patient.
Stripes: Single Step them over the base clear paint. You must be able to catch the edge with a finger nail.
Yes interior red is different, there was a zero gloss for the dash top and rear package tray trim. And a semi-gloss for the dash face.
Bryan302:
Thanks firstgenaddict for the very helpful information. What type of paint did you use on your Lemans blue car?, very nice restoration by the way! A fellow camaro nut friend has suggested using a single stage urethane to get that laquer look. I wasn't dead set on BC/CC, but I guess I'll have to bow up and decide, tough decision!
Thanks,
Bryan
firstgenaddict:
I used Chromabase Premier BC/CC and then lay out, prep, and shoot the stripes over the top of the finished paint using Chroma One Single stage. (stripes should be over the BC/CC so the edge can be felt with your fingernail to be correct)
With non metallic cars I usually single stage using a catalyzed urethane then cut and polish them using 2000 grit, because as your friend states it does look more like lacquer than a BC/CC job.
A Red and black houndstooth 68 Z and a Red/Red 69 Z... nice cars, got any pics?
69Z28-RS:
I agree with James' statements below, except for using the word 'correct', implying that a paint job on an early Camaro can be 'correct' using base coat / clear coat paints... it might be the best choice using todays paints (for a metallic color), but it can never be 'correctly' restored with that type of paint. (Also recognizing that the major Camaro organizations that judge restored cars now seem to accept b/c paints without penalty).
With non metallic colors, one can use single stage urethane (as James states) with catalyst, and have just as durable a paint job as b/c urethanes, but be a little bit 'closer' to being 'correct', but still is not the factory original paint type.
That said, I follow the same process as James stated for metallic and non-metallic colors, as metallic don't lend themselves well to single stage paint and the sanding/buffing necessary to make it appear as lacquer.
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