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cook_dw

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2013, 09:20:07 PM »
Thanks Ed & Steve.  I'd like to see an earlier build '68 or a 67 if possible.  Also the 4 dimples on the F A I've noticed are not on the reproduction ones.  Guessing they were from an assembly process of installing it onto the base.?.  Also there is a "GM" stamped on the one I posted.  Is this consistent with the others?
Darrell Cook
1967 LeMans Blue SS/RS L35 clone
1968 Rallye Green SS L78 - unrestored original
1968 Matador Red Z28

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2013, 09:25:28 PM »
The NOS ones that I have have the 4 dimples. Probably for installation purposes-

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Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 10:11:49 PM »
Yes, all three of mine have GM stamped on them and 4 dimples.

Ed

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 02:23:12 PM »
 I was able to climb up on the lift to take pictures of my LOS survivor.
Excuse the "survivor dust"  :D and yes...I noticed a critter brought its food on top of the manifold.
I looked at the base of the 67 4B LOS survivor and 5B NOR restored and they are exactly as the one Ed posted (Air cleaner-3)
The hose on the 4B is original and as you can see it has lines and no GM stamp
The 4B base has the smog pipe vent as well
The 5B hose was replaced in the 80's with a NOS and it has the GM and square stamped on it in yellow
The instructions are curved and the verbiage is different than what Ed posted (Air cleaner-4)
Both 4B and 5B lids are black w/white silk screen instructions and both still retain their flame arresters and have dimples. I posted the 5B lid with instructions because that is the most clearer.

Mike
67 LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2013, 03:26:47 PM »
Interesting to see a black lid with chrome valve covers.  I always thought all lids were chrome on Camaros with open element.?.  

Mike did you say your 04B car has the same script as your 05B car?  Also is it a black lid also?

Ed is your car LOS?

Ok how about we do this to maybe keep a log.

LID Instructions

67 - LOS - 04B - ? - ?
67 - NOR - 05B - Black - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - ? - 05D - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print
 
Darrell Cook
1967 LeMans Blue SS/RS L35 clone
1968 Rallye Green SS L78 - unrestored original
1968 Matador Red Z28

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2013, 05:10:38 PM »
The 67 L35 had a change toward the end of the model year. If you look in the AIM (UPC L35, sheet A8, item number 1 - Air Cleaner asm), it shows P/N 6483656. However, note 2 shows "was 6424434" on April 6. 1967. The 6483656 utilized a chrome lid (P/N 6421832), but the superceeded 6424434 used a black lid (P/N 6422356). The exact change over date is unknown.

The 67 Camaro with 302 or 396/375, the 68 Camaro with 302 or 396, and the 69 Camaro with 302 or 396 (exc ducted hood) used the 6423907 assembly, and all these have the chrome lid.

My car is a Los Angeles car and the instructions are straight.

Ed

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2013, 05:17:16 PM »
Ed,
Thanks for the clarification.


Others out there care to add to the list?


LID Instructions

67 - LOS -  04B -  Black    - curved print
67 - NOR - 05B -  Black    - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - LOS  - 05D - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print
« Last Edit: July 28, 2013, 06:06:15 PM by cook_dw »
Darrell Cook
1967 LeMans Blue SS/RS L35 clone
1968 Rallye Green SS L78 - unrestored original
1968 Matador Red Z28

Mike S

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2013, 06:00:54 PM »
Interesting to see a black lid with chrome valve covers.  I always thought all lids were chrome on Camaros with open element.?. 

Mike did you say your 04B car has the same script as your 05B car?  Also is it a black lid also?

LID Instructions

Yes, the 4B is black and has the same curved air cleaner instructions as the 5B. I filled in the blanks below. I have seen a few 67 396 Pace Cars with black lids too.

67 - LOS - 04B - Black - curved print

  Interesting what Ed posted about the lid change from black to chrome. My guess is that in 5B they still had inventory to use before going to chrome.
Compiling a list with enough data points though may show when the cutover too effect.
Honestly though, I wish the valve covers were orange instead of chrome. I like the looks better.

Mike
67 LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2013, 04:08:05 AM »
Darrell just checked my 68 o6a l35 car sames as yours,eds & steve's !

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2013, 11:04:44 AM »
Sport thanks for the info.  To make sure I understand yours has the straight print on the lid instructions.?.  Added below.
LID Instructions

67 - LOS -  04B -  Black    - curved print
67 - NOR - 05B -  Black    - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - LOS  - 05D - Chrome - straight print
68 - NOR - 06A - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print
Darrell Cook
1967 LeMans Blue SS/RS L35 clone
1968 Rallye Green SS L78 - unrestored original
1968 Matador Red Z28

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2013, 06:11:37 AM »

Hi there,

I have a 68 NOR L35 4A camaro.

Im assuming my lid would be chrome with the curved font?

Thank you.

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2013, 06:50:13 AM »
Not 100% sure just yet.  We need more data points from original cars.
Darrell Cook
1967 LeMans Blue SS/RS L35 clone
1968 Rallye Green SS L78 - unrestored original
1968 Matador Red Z28

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2013, 02:13:03 AM »
Here are a few pictures of my '68 01D L35 air cleaner which I believe to be original to the car when I purchased it in 1978. Maybe I have the oddball lid, but mine has two silkscreen instructions!

Bob
Bob
'68 SS L35 01D

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2013, 02:14:45 AM »
And just a couple more pictures...


Bob
Bob
'68 SS L35 01D

cook_dw

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Re: Big Block Open Element Air Cleaner
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2013, 03:33:25 AM »
Maybe I have the oddball lid, but mine has two silkscreen instructions!

Bob

Looks like they hit it the first time & realized it didn't take & hit it again & then gave up..  Lol

Is your car NOR or LOS?


67 - LOS -  04B -  Black    - curved print
67 - NOR - 05B -  Black    - curved print
68 - ?       - 01D - Chrome - curved print
68 - NOR - 03D - Chrome - curved print
68 - LOS  - 05D - Chrome - straight print
68 - NOR - 06A - Chrome - straight print
69 - NOR - 01C - Chrome - straight print

Darrell Cook
1967 LeMans Blue SS/RS L35 clone
1968 Rallye Green SS L78 - unrestored original
1968 Matador Red Z28