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1967 RS
« on: July 18, 2013, 03:22:06 AM »
Hello All,
First posting here and I'd like to thank CRG upfront for a FANTASTIC site. I can't imagine the amount of effort and resources that has gone into all this information!
With that said - here's what I have:
I just purchased a 1967 RS that was in a garage for 28 years (Lic. plates & inspec. sticker are from 1985)
I have the protecto plate/book and all the registrations from 1967-1985 (from the orig. owner) Car looks to be very orig. with exception of what looks like a skim cote of body filller and repaint that is maybe 30 years old (paint quality is pretty bad)
Trying to determine if this is a true L30/M20 car?
VIN:124377L114810
I think I've decoded everything except the rear end which has a 10 bolt cover and multi-leaf springs (I think this may be one of the few mod's. no trac bar or single leaf)
Engine is stamped T1007ML and matches the POP (327/275)
Bock is stamped 3903352
4 speed trans case is stamped R7R24 and matches the POP. Shifter has had a Hurst upgrade.
Cowl tag ties back to what the car is as it sits and matches the POP (Bolero Red, Black buckets, AM radio, etc.)
POP shows the trans and engine builds from 10/67 with a car build of 11/67 - so that looks good too.

My question comes back to the the cowl tag which in the lower left corner does not show a "4P"?
This is the only item that does not seem to tie into what I've read on the L30/M20 cars

Its pretty much untouched under the hood - lots of scale but runs fine. No build sheet under the rear seat- but I havent
pulled the seats yet.

Hoping this was a good buy and will be a great project for my son and I

Any input would be much appreciated - Thanks

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Chris - New Hampshire.

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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 04:05:35 AM »
Others will chime in but I believe that the 4P code didn't show up until later then you November build date.

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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 06:18:43 AM »
  Welcome to the CRG.  Sounds like your car was built close to mine 11A, (actually believe it was built Nov. 1 st.)   Mine is also Bolero Red with Black standard Bucket interior, but not an L30 car. 
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 02:16:20 PM »
I would like to get more info on this car you posted about (124377L114810).  
If you can help, I need a picture of the cowl tag, POP and where the speedometer cable comes through the firewall.

The car should not have the 4P on the cowl tag, it is a little to early for that.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2013, 02:40:46 PM by 67ss350camaro »
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2013, 02:24:43 AM »
Thanks all for the comments. Seems this car codes out to is a true <early> L30/M20 car. I finally got to cleaning the rear end and the code there is PA1026G - which also matches the POP as an early 10 bolt along with the engine code and Saginaw trans. I also discoverd it has the dealer installed <70/71 recall> torq cable attached - so another check in the right column. One outstanding item seems be with the power steering. This car has power steering - but no code N40 on the POP. It also has the factory gauges. I'm pretty sure the gauges were an easy dealer add, but what about the power steering? Julian date in the steering box reads 251^6 (251 st day of '66) - which is right in the range of the trans and rear end build date (and prior to the build date of the car which was 11A. ??
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 06:36:25 PM »
The N40 was probably just missed on the POP.  The U17 was not coded on the cowl tag or POP, so I bet it was factory also.
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 10:14:14 PM »
In your original statement you do mean built 11-'66 right, not '67?
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 08:59:43 PM »
My bad there on the build year.  Yes.  My '67 is a 10/11 - '66 build car.
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2013, 09:25:34 PM »
My bad there on the build year.  Yes.  My '67 is a 10/11 - '66 build car.

Are you ever going to get us some pictures put up? OH how we love pictures !!! 8)
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2013, 09:28:32 PM »
I had a red with black vinyl top, standard black interior RS back in about '75. You've got a very conbiation there, especially with the 275hp. SOunds like a keeper. And yea, we ned pics.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 05:42:18 AM »
My 11A  LOS built car is about 1100 cars ahead of yours, and my P. Steering gear box is much closer to build date.  There's a pic. of my Gear box here;
There is a pic. here of my original P. Steering pump for my 11A (66)built '67 Coupe with Julian Date stamped on top (276 6)it has the year stamped.
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8543.msg59241#msg59241
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 11:50:04 PM »
Here's a few pictures as found after 28 years in storage. Haven't done much other than getting her running and decoding everthing. As mentioned earlier - really bad paint job from the 80's (to include missing trim)
p.s. - noticed when I was taking the pictures that the rear tag frame is from the orig. dealership - Ed Taylor Chevrolet in San Diego. Kinda cool.
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2013, 12:03:34 AM »
Couple more.... Now where to begin ???
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2013, 02:41:02 AM »
There's a good looking car with some labor and detail. Good catch.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2013, 03:45:06 AM »
Do the Factory Tach., and Gauges show up on the POP?
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 02:05:16 PM »
No tach, gauges, or PS on the POP. Only items listed are a.m. radio, telescoping antenna, folding rear seat, and single rear speaker - all of which the car has.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 07:59:21 PM »
Maybe someone more knowledgeable about the POPs will chime in, I would think those items would be on the POP.  At any rate nice options.  Another thought I had, was maybe the car was sitting on the lot somewhere minus those options, the first owner liked it and had the dealer install those.
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 12:57:16 AM »
This link has the listing of the options on the POP.....

     http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2013, 01:42:17 AM »
I am curious about not having 4P showing up earlier then November. I have a 10E with a 4P on it. I've had it since 12/68 and know where it was before then.

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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 05:09:12 PM »
I am curious about not having 4P showing up earlier then November. I have a 10E with a 4P on it. I've had it since 12/68 and know where it was before then.
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2013, 08:58:00 PM »
No tach, gauges, or PS on the POP. Only items listed are a.m. radio, telescoping antenna, folding rear seat, and single rear speaker - all of which the car has.
OK,,no to Tach. and Gauges on the P.O.P., but think it would be on the Trim Tag.  P. Steering should be on the P.O.P. unless it was Dealer installed.  That was done quite a bit I'm told.
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2014, 11:27:36 PM »
I too have a 67 L30- M20 late 67 start build date June10th.It does have the 4P code with date code engine close to cowl,may 25 stamp.Strangely it has LS on the cowl tag instead of LOS which I've seen online others built the same cowl day 06B.  J 177 ( June 10th),It has the square radius rod to stabilize the 12 bolt rear end I'd send pic but don't know how
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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2014, 12:49:51 AM »
It has the square radius rod to stabilize the 12 bolt rear end I'd send pic but don't know how.

Read this...  http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7809.0

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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2014, 02:34:13 PM »
OK,,no to Tach. and Gauges on the P.O.P., but think it would be on the Trim Tag.

Cowl tag only had information that was meaningful to Fisher Body, and nobody on the Chevrolet side paid any attention to the cowl tag; tach and gauges were installed by Chevrolet.
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Re: 1967 RS
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2014, 01:33:29 PM »
wish i had the pop for mine.It too is the 67 rs L30-M20 with the factory tach ,4 speed,console with gauges with fold down rear seat and rear speaker.The cowl tag shows fold down rear seat,4 speed floor shift,console,rear speaker,courtesy lamp,rally sport and 4p code wich relates to ss options
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« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2014, 02:25:01 PM »
according to what im reading on crg,the 4P code was not put on the cowl tag for L30-M20 cars until dec-jan mid year.So any cars built with date code 08-12 which were built in 66 and maybe 01 built in 67 would not have the 4P code.Code 01-07 would
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