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« on: July 15, 2013, 01:42:21 PM »

I'm trying to determine the correct oil sender fitting (block side) for a 1969 Camaro with console gauges.  How does this one look and is it missing any pieces or does it appear complete?



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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 03:01:37 PM »

I'm assuming you have a small block, so yes, it's correct.

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 03:32:09 PM »

I'm assuming you have a small block, so yes, it's correct.

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Yes. (for a 302)
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 07:21:47 PM »

My looks something like that but a little different. Mine has a male end on both sides of the fitting vs a female end on the oil line side.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2013, 07:11:07 PM »

 Interesting I have the same one I'd like to re-install. So should the male hose fitting have the internal hose sleeve insert in it like the female does that one would get from Paragon?
Yours looks like the hose is gone unless its just clipped flush, does it have a sleeve insert for the hose what configuration did you use?
What is the proper configuration for the male type hose end?
 
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2013, 09:39:27 PM »

See pics
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b309/ToddZ/P1000639.jpg

No insert on left original line
Paragon line kit on right
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2013, 07:06:47 AM »

I am missing this item, if anyone has a spare pm please
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 03:59:12 PM »

Here's one on ebay;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-70-Camaro-Z-28-302-Corvette-LT1-Oil-Line-Fitting-/331005218965?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d1172d095&vxp=mtr
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2013, 07:50:02 PM »

Ok
Here's what I found:
The male style fitting is called a 1/8" double compression fitting. Weatherhead, Edelmann, and Everco all offer replacements for these special fittings.
According to the manufacturer when using plastic tubing use internal tube support, that is so the compression sleeve squeezes tight against line and then internal tube support for a leak free seal. I'll post additional pictures when I get all the parts together. $1.15 a piece on line for the 1/8" double compression fitting.

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2013, 01:49:12 PM »

Lloyd, I want to THANK YOU!  Within a couple of days of you posting the pics of this, I was looking for a brass fitting for the pool and saw this fitting sitting in my misc brass drawer!  So now that I know what it is, it is now in my drawers of parts for my SS.  I just have to find that short section of oil line I saved someplace with the rest of the fitting on it Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 09:25:13 AM »

Lloyd, I want to THANK YOU!  Within a couple of days of you posting the pics of this, I was looking for a brass fitting for the pool and saw this fitting sitting in my misc brass drawer!  So now that I know what it is, it is now in my drawers of parts for my SS.  I just have to find that short section of oil line I saved someplace with the rest of the fitting on it Smiley

Glad to hear you located the fitting Kevin. Its a tiny, unique, and to me, important detail. 
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 11:19:17 PM »

Kevin/Lloyd;
 Can't reuse the 1/8" double compression threaded sleeve nut 5/16-24, once the cone end is compressed its toast. However the block fitting is unique and not available, it is reusable.
New ones are available here online; http://www.fastfittings.com/search?searchwords=22008&searchsmall_5487389=Search
Sleeve number 22008 and fitting 16001 for $2 a piece.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2013, 04:04:27 PM »

I am missing this item, if anyone has a spare pm please
OK I have this fitting now and has a bit of the old brass hardline and my car has a black plastic line to the guage that I thought was OE, is this correct? I have doubts that this will work now or not. I know the small flare nut isnt reuseable but will a new one work with the plastic line?
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2013, 07:06:33 AM »


The plastic line will work with a nut replacement, but it needs the internal line sleeve per the manufacturer.
The nut/cone pinches down on the line.
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2013, 07:38:40 AM »


The plastic line will work with a nut replacement, but it needs the internal line sleeve per the manufacturer.
The nut/cone pinches down on the line.
OK that makes sense now, thanks!
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 04:25:28 PM »

A few more detail photos of an original fitting for reference:







Oil Fitting Location (w/generic gauge fitting installed)

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2013, 06:58:32 PM »

Anyone reproducing these? I'll have to look at what I have installed on mine but I can bet it isn't the original.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2013, 07:13:05 PM »

Gary, from my research this style of fitting is generally what's available from the reproduction parts suppliers:

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2013, 07:33:36 PM »

I'll have to look, but I may have that one, maybe not reproduction but one of the old school oil gauge set ups. I've had the car for a while, but only found out that the piece in your pick is correct.
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2013, 07:37:57 PM »

Hey Lloyd, can I get a really nice pic of your Z for my computer? Man, I love 10 10 Camaro's.
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2013, 08:30:53 PM »

Hey Lloyd, can I get a really nice pic of your Z for my computer? Man, I love 10 10 Camaro's.

How could I possibly say no to that...PM your email address Gary and I will send you a high-res photo. 
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2013, 10:30:52 PM »

Can anyone explain how the plastic tube works on the this fitting that Edgemontvillage has shown. I tried to install the same fitting on my friend's  69 Z28, last year and I could not get the plastic oil line to stop leaking oil on the male flare fitting that screws into the female fitting.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2013, 10:37:16 PM »

Assuming you've assembled the fitting correctly on the line, did you *reuse* the same piece of plastic line?  I typically reuse the line, but you may need to cut off the end part (that was cinched in the fitting previously) and use a new portion of the line for sealing.  Otherwise, it's purely in how the fitting is assembled, use a new compression seal, and don't overtighten initially.. put it snug (remember it's a small fitting and a plastic line), start the car to build pressure, and gradually tighten until the leak stops..  If you overtighten you will likely cause a leak.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2013, 10:59:18 PM »

The plastic oil line was new repro,  I had to cut the plastic oil line to remove the compression nut the compression furl and the brass tube insert. Pushed the plastic line though the fitting and installed the brass tube insert into the end of the plastic tube, screwed the fitting in the female fitting, but still could not get the plastic tube to bite onto the fitting no matter now much I tighten the fitting.
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2013, 11:04:06 PM »

The plastic oil line was new repro,  I had to cut the plastic oil line to remove the compression nut the compression furl and the brass tube insert. Pushed the plastic line though the fitting and installed the brass tube insert into the end of the plastic tube, screwed the fitting in the female fitting, but still could not get the plastic tube to bite onto the fitting no matter now much I tighten the fitting.

Use a new compression ferrule and a new section of line.
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2013, 10:32:41 PM »

See pictures

This is the larger nut with the GM type female hose fitting
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2013, 10:39:28 PM »

Original style Edelmann fitting
and tube insert
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2013, 03:40:45 PM »

Old one on its way out
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2013, 03:41:44 PM »

New one installed and leak free
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2013, 05:53:45 PM »

Can these be bought somewhere? Or are we stuck with finding used...if we can?
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2013, 06:04:45 PM »

I've never seen a source for the block fitting. They come up occasionally on ebay.

 
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2013, 06:38:13 PM »

Yeah, like the brake booster hose bracket.
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2013, 11:43:32 AM »

New one installed and leak free

Nice!
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2013, 11:47:24 AM »

Yeah, like the brake booster hose bracket.

Be vigilant Gary, theses unicorns can be found, I recently located this one: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11264.0
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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2013, 05:03:28 PM »

Todd (?), where can I source the tube insert, Part #? Dimensions: 1/8" by ?

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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2013, 11:31:58 PM »

...never mind, I re-read the thread and located the link for the tube insert in a previous posting. Thanks.

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« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2013, 10:11:31 PM »

OK guys, thanks to Lloyd I bid and won this from Ebay. Thanks Lloyd. So now I need to figure out what else I need to complete this assembly. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

I have this...
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« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2013, 10:16:03 PM »

and need this...one for each end or just one end and which end?

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« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2013, 10:22:18 PM »

I won't need to replace the black plastic line I have but do I need to replace the nut, what's shown in the pic and would I need to replace the cone shaped fitting shown in the pic as well? Will I be able to reuse those pieces?
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« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2013, 06:55:34 AM »

The double compression fitting you have has been compressed and you won't be able to re-use.
You need the Sleeve number 22008 and fitting 16001 for $2 a piece.

New ones are available here online; http://www.fastfittings.com/search?searchwords=22008&searchsmall_5487389=Search

 

 
 
 
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« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2013, 08:01:35 AM »

Hey Todd, Thanks. The double compression fitting is the piece that screws into the block fitting correct? Do I need the sleeve at both ends of the oil line? What about that little piece that slides on the outside of the oil line with the cap as shown in the pic on the end of the oil line? I'll probably need that too right? Where do I get that?
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2013, 10:13:59 AM »

If you're going with a metal line, all you need is what's shown in the photo in reply #36. The tiny tubular inserts in the photo in reply #37 are only used inside the ends of the nylon line if you have to cut the line, and if you buy the complete nylon line kit, the ends will already have the inserts installed - they keep the line from collapsing when you tighten the fitting.
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« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2013, 02:19:12 PM »

John,

Do you have a metal line or the original plastic type on your car?
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2013, 02:30:51 PM »

If you're going with a metal line, all you need is what's shown in the photo in reply #36. The tiny tubular inserts in the photo in reply #37 are only used inside the ends of the nylon line if you have to cut the line, and if you buy the complete nylon line kit, the ends will already have the inserts installed - they keep the line from collapsing when you tighten the fitting.

John...is there a source for this line complete? Paragon?
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« Reply #44 on: October 10, 2013, 07:16:05 AM »

I bought Paragon's line kit and cut one end off for the new double compression fitting, as shown.
The reason I like Paragon's kit is as John has stated before; That little compression fitting shown there is a GM proprietary fitting.
I have lots of different compression fittings for the 1/8" line and the one shown post 25 is the GM style. It appears its swaged on somehow during the process of assembly. Now all the others I've seen don't work as well (on stock components) as the GM fitting.
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« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2013, 10:04:16 AM »

OK, so I need a brass tube #22008, the little brass part that has the splits in it and a cap to connect to the oil pressure gauge side and a double compression fitting #16001 to connect to the block fitting. Is this correct?
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2013, 12:39:59 PM »

John...is there a source for this line complete? Paragon?

Rick's has the complete kit.
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2013, 12:41:17 PM »

John,

Do you have a metal line or the original plastic type on your car?

I have the original nylon line on my car.
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« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2013, 04:50:53 PM »

Gary the plastic line is avaialable at Ricks  pn# CG-15 but you will still need the fitting and tube to install with this block fitting from what it appears to me. I dont believe the ends on this line kit are correct for the OE block fitting. you would need to cut one end off and add the two earlier listed parts - coorect me if I'm wrong
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« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2013, 05:36:02 PM »

OK, I had to order a grommet too so I ordered a new line kit #CG-15 from Ricks anyway that Rich mentioned. I believe I have a Ricks line already installed, and not seeing something laid out, for me to understand what I needed if I didn't have it all, this was a better solution. With all this done, do I still need one each of #22008 and #16001 when I cut off the end that goes into the OEM fitting on the block? I'm going to assume the old double crush sleeve is no good to use right? That is what I'm thinking I need. Is this correct? If it is, then I will be all set. If I have the Ricks kit already installed, then I'll have some spare parts if someone needs them. 
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« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2013, 09:32:55 PM »

Gary;
Here are my steps, using the original fitting on the block. I nipped one end off with the female fitting shown on post 25. The line kit I got from Paragon is crimped at both ends female fittings.
1) Jack the car and remove console, remove line and feed wire up through rubber isolator at firewall.
2) After you've got the old line removed from the car, feed the nipped end through your stock firewall rubber isolator. I used the wire (.032") to feed the line back up from the console. .
3) Removed male block fitting and installed original female block fitting.
4) Placed new double compression fitting on hose first and slide up out of the way, install new sleeve in line and pull fitting back down. My fitting and sleeve were loose (take care at this step as you can lose them)
5) Place new line end with assembled compression fitting/sleeve in block fitting and push line in while spinning fitting to pre-load the fitting on the line.
6) Torque line to 20 in/lb (that's the torque I used per some manuals I utilized)
7) Install and torque console fitting
Cool Start car and admire your leak free install Smiley
7) Re-install the console and removed components
4) Drink a cold one and pat yourself on the back.  Grin
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« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2013, 09:41:46 PM »

Gary:
 You asked:
With all this done, do I still need one each of #22008 and #16001 when I cut off the end that goes into the OEM fitting on the block?
Yes, you need a new dbl. compression fitting and a sleeve those are the two I ordered.
I'm going to assume the old double crush sleeve is no good to use right?
Yes, after its crimped you can't get the line out and re-crimp it without fear of a crack/leak. Just replace it.
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« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2013, 04:38:25 PM »

Hey guys. When I get everything in I'll post some pics with it all laid out just to make sure I'm not missing anything. This way if anyone needs to copy a good pic for reference it will be here in this thread.
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« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2013, 10:01:38 AM »

Gary;
Don't want to lead you astray here, just remembered some additional info. The Post 25 fitting 16001 is a larger nut style 3/8" and not the same as original. The only place I could find the original 5/16" nut style shown on post 26 was from: Part number 0650  111200 B.E. Atlas (773) 283-2550 in a pack of 5. Didn't want you to be disappointed when you get the new one, cause it looks different, it will work fine its just not the same as the original.

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« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2013, 01:34:47 PM »

Gary;
Don't want to lead you astray here, just remembered some additional info. The Post 25 fitting 16001 is a larger nut style 3/8" and not the same as original. The only place I could find the original 5/16" nut style shown on post 26 was from: Part number 0650  111200 B.E. Atlas (773) 283-2550 in a pack of 5. Didn't want you to be disappointed when you get the new one, cause it looks different, it will work fine its just not the same as the original.

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What's the name of the place? 111200 B.E. Atlas? By phone only?


Never mind...I Googled the phone number. Heck, you have to register and I don't fill all the requirements. Damn...

Unless I am in a different website there is no such number. I went into preview and entered 0650 111200 and just 0650 and there is no such number. What catagory is it under?
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« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2013, 02:47:09 PM »

Found this...don't know if you can buy from them though.

http://www.plews-edelmann.com/double-compression-fittings/
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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2013, 02:59:21 PM »

I know this is not for a "69"  Z-28 but I think it came off  a "69" L-78 console car, can anyone confirm this? Terry
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« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2013, 08:13:21 PM »

Gary;
Edelmann shown here probably has more than one source. That's the numbers on my sales receipt.
They are who Edelmann sent me to buy. See pictures
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all three edelmann looks same as original

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« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2013, 10:41:24 PM »

Todd...so how did you purchase them and from who?...this is what I'm trying to find out. Unless I'm missing something the Plews & Edelmann website doesn't have a way to purchase anything and your packages give NO clue where YOU got them. I've been looking off and on all afternoon for a source with no luck. I still have to purchase #22008 and #111200 yet and would rather not purchase #16001 if I really don't have to. I almost went with fastfittings.com until I say your side note about the larger 3/8" nut style of #16001.
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« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2013, 11:27:16 PM »

I found #111200 at O'Reilly on-line if anyone is looking for them. Edelmann part# 111200. I just Googled that number and it took me right to the O'Reilly page. $1.99 ea. and ordered 2 but shipping is hefty...just under $14.00 UPS.


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« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2013, 11:47:36 PM »

Grainger also has the 1/8" brass tube insert, their part number, 46M543. Manufacturer is Anderson Metals #700561-02. $0.93 ea. at Grainger.

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« Reply #61 on: October 13, 2013, 07:14:50 AM »

Well I had a pretty busy night getting everything lined up for a complete oil line. I was looking at the Ricks oil line kit and the Paragon oil line kit and ordered both. I believe I'm gonna use the Paragon oil line kit so if anyone can use the Ricks oil line kit PM me. I got the fitting in yesterday but didn't check my mail until this morning at 6 AM. Looks good and undamaged. Just need to get the rest of the parts in and I'm all set. Thanks guys for the help. One more little missing item I wasn't aware of scratched off my list.
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« Reply #62 on: October 13, 2013, 10:39:46 AM »

Gary;
When I called Edelmann for 1/8" dbl. comp. ftg. source they sent me to:
B.E. Atlas Co.
4300 N Kilpatrick Ave
Chicago IL 60641
phone 773-283-2550

They do have a website; http://www.beatlas.com/contact/default.asp
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« Reply #63 on: October 13, 2013, 01:46:19 PM »

Gary;
When I called Edelmann for 1/8" dbl. comp. ftg. source they sent me to:
B.E. Atlas Co.
4300 N Kilpatrick Ave
Chicago IL 60641
phone 773-283-2550

They do have a website; http://www.beatlas.com/contact/default.asp

Yes, I did find that site and I went there as I said in reply #54. I didn't meet all the requirements to register (no FEIN# or State resale# and no business) on the website and saw no other way to make a purchase, so it was of no help to me. I did click the radio button to 'preview warehouse" and when I entered the number I received a no such number alert. You gave me 0650 111200 which I assumed was the part number but nothing came up. I did ask where I should look on the site but this was all very vague. I also sent email but haven't received a response yet, but it is of no consequence now anyway.  I did more searching last night and found everything I needed somewhere else, so it's all good..
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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2013, 04:04:35 PM »

Hey guys, got all the parts in for the oil line today. I have a question on the grommet. I was looking thru the 69 A.I.M. and didn't see a reference on it unless I missed it, but I'm curious which way it is installed...from the engine compartment or inside the car and what direction does it face?




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Found it UPC U17 A1,2,3. Page 414, 415, 416. Looks like the grommet gets pushed in the firewall from engine side with tip protruding inside the car.
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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2013, 04:49:19 PM »

Here's what I have set up. This should be correct right?

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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2013, 11:41:32 PM »

Here's another fitting if anyone is interested.


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« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2013, 08:19:27 AM »

Gary
That's it, it will seal perfectly with a fresh set of fittings.

 
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« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2013, 12:16:51 PM »

Great. Thanks for all the help making this correct.
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« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2014, 11:17:46 PM »

Gary;
Don't want to lead you astray here, just remembered some additional info. The Post 25 fitting 16001 is a larger nut style 3/8" and not the same as original. The only place I could find the original 5/16" nut style shown on post 26 was from: Part number 0650  111200 B.E. Atlas (773) 283-2550 in a pack of 5. Didn't want you to be disappointed when you get the new one, cause it looks different, it will work fine its just not the same as the original.

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Hey Todd sorry for the Hi-Jack but I just noticed that we have the same cam. I have not installed my motor yet, but I am wondering how you like the cam?

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« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2014, 01:10:36 PM »

Hey guys I'm getting the impression that the oil line fitting we worked out last year isn't correct. There is another post on T.C. now discussing this. So which one is correct then?

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2504706&posted=1#post2504706


Was looking in the 69 AIM UPC U17 and it definitely shows something different from what was discussed here.
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« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2014, 02:09:38 PM »

Hey guys I'm getting the impression that the oil line fitting we worked out last your isn't correct. There is another post on T.C. now discussing this. So which one is correct then?

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2504706&posted=1#post2504706

I'm not sure where the confusion came from but in fact Chick and Gary asked me my opinion at the Solid Lifter Showroom @ Carlisle this past weekend and I stated that the fitting on the unrestored garnet red Z we were certifying had the correct configuration that I've seen on all unrestored I've owned and certified. This is the configuration that Dave V. showed in his first post in the above provided link to TC.
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« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2014, 02:35:05 PM »

For you 1968 guys....my original setup is identical to the one shown by Dave in the TC post.  And this is the setup that screws into the back of the block....not behind the guages.
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« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2014, 02:39:22 PM »

His post on TC was sorta confusing as to which one he believed to be correct; his first photo was the one with the 'internally threaded' compression fitting and the last two photos he posted showed an externally threaded compression fitting.  
Steve:  You're saying that you agree with Dave that his 'first photo' shows the correct 'internally threaded' compression fitting?

Just to add some 'brightness' to this thread, it seems to be a great place to follow thru on my promise to Steve S. (PaceMe) to post his photo here for all to see.. Smiley     Here he's shown posed with a very original (I think?).. '67 little old lady owned, one owner, original, never-smoked-in, but slightly-dusty SSRS...  oh.. and I should add 'back yard find' to make this more interesting to the barn find folks.. Smiley

PS.   It was great meeting you at Carlisle (finally) and getting to discuss some of this stuff personally, and thanks for the loaner badge.. Smiley ..    Also great to meet with Chick, TMR Eddie Sells, Skip Locaste?, Tom Flanagan (a great '69 yellow-blk Z28), and a few more whose names are escaping me right now while at Carlisle.
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« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2014, 03:00:45 PM »

Gary, I think Dave's first pic has the cap screwed on/assembled and the last 2 pics separated.
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« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2014, 03:15:39 PM »

His post on TC was sorta confusing as to which one he believed to be correct; his first photo was the one with the 'internally threaded' compression fitting and the last two photos he posted showed an externally threaded compression fitting.   
Steve:  You're saying that you agree with Dave that his 'first photo' shows the correct 'internally threaded' compression fitting?

Just to add some 'brightness' to this thread, it seems to be a great place to follow thru on my promise to Steve S. (PaceMe) to post his photo here for all to see.. Smiley     Here he's shown posed with a very original (I think?).. '67 little old lady owned, one owner, original, never-smoked-in, but slightly-dusty SSRS...  oh.. and I should add 'back yard find' to make this more interesting to the barn find folks.. Smiley

PS.   It was great meeting you at Carlisle (finally) and getting to discuss some of this stuff personally, and thanks for the loaner badge.. Smiley ..    Also great to meet with Chick, TMR Eddie Sells, Skip Locaste?, Tom Flanagan (a great '69 yellow-blk Z28), and a few more whose names are escaping me right now while at Carlisle.

Gary, the car owners and enthusiast are what make this hobby and events so enjoyable and educational. I was actually certifying the dust on that barn find car. Notice my elbo did not come in contact with the dust...that is a no...no. The 11 mile 63 impala and orig owner 8700 mile 70 chevelle SS may be attending MCACN show and participate in the Vintage program.

Below is a picture of what I've seen exclusively.

 
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« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2014, 03:31:54 PM »

Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?
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« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2014, 03:40:24 PM »

Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?

On my orange Z I had to replace the line and the reproduction tapered fitting seemed a little oversized (didn't seat very deep), so I bought a 1/8" fitting kit from Advance Auto locally which had compression fittings.  I cut the end and installed, which worked perfect. I did it as precaution, however the repop may work fine.
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« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2014, 04:13:25 PM »

Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?

On my orange Z I had to replace the line and the reproduction tapered fitting seemed a little oversized (didn't seat very deep), so I bought a 1/8" fitting kit from Advance Auto locally which had compression fittings.  I cut the end and installed, which worked perfect. I did it as precaution, however the repop may work fine.


Steve, you mean this fitting kit correct? Shouldn't be an issue using the nylon oil line. I'm thinking the oil line kit I got from Ricks in 2000 has the small ferrule already on the oil line as apposed to the bigger one your speaking of on the current oil line kit. Or should I use a new ferrule? 
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« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2014, 04:25:12 PM »

Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?



On my orange Z I had to replace the line and the reproduction tapered fitting seemed a little oversized (didn't seat very deep), so I bought a 1/8" fitting kit from Advance Auto locally which had compression fittings.  I cut the end and installed, which worked perfect. I did it as precaution, however the repop may work fine.


Steve, you mean this fitting kit correct? Shouldn't be an issue using the nylon oil line. I'm thinking the oil line kit I got from Ricks in 2000 has the small ferrule already on the oil line as apposed to the bigger one your speaking of on the current oil line kit. Or should I use a new ferrule? 

See how deep the ferrule seats. The concern I had was only a couple of threads caught so I used the ferrule from the kit pictured. Sounds like you should be good to go....
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« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2014, 04:30:32 PM »

Will the oil line caps from the reproduction oil lines fit that fitting that Dave posted the same as original? Looks like I'm in the market for another block fitting then. The one at HBC is the correct fitting in reproduction? I believe I have a reproduction oil line from Ricks as a spare and one that is currently on my car now, also from Ricks should fit the HBC fitting then?



On my orange Z I had to replace the line and the reproduction tapered fitting seemed a little oversized (didn't seat very deep), so I bought a 1/8" fitting kit from Advance Auto locally which had compression fittings.  I cut the end and installed, which worked perfect. I did it as precaution, however the repop may work fine.


Steve, you mean this fitting kit correct? Shouldn't be an issue using the nylon oil line. I'm thinking the oil line kit I got from Ricks in 2000 has the small ferrule already on the oil line as apposed to the bigger one your speaking of on the current oil line kit. Or should I use a new ferrule? 

See how deep the ferrule seats. The concern I had was only a couple of threads caught so I used the ferrule from the kit pictured. Sounds like you should be good to go....


And all this hinges on getting the reproduction block fitting from HBC or getting lucky enough to find an original...somewhere. Damn, thought we had this all worked out last year.
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« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2014, 01:49:25 PM »

His post on TC was sorta confusing as to which one he believed to be correct; his first photo was the one with the 'internally threaded' compression fitting and the last two photos he posted showed an externally threaded compression fitting.  
Steve:  You're saying that you agree with Dave that his 'first photo' shows the correct 'internally threaded' compression fitting?

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I'm sorry that my post / pictures on TC #1 confused you with my verbage or which one I believed to be correct. The correct fitting is the one I posted with both male ends and all those pictures are of the same fitting with and without the oil line cap screwed on.  What I was trying to say or write should have read:  There has been some discussion reference the original oil line brass fitting. The one that keeps being discussed with the female end that is believed to be correct, but isn't is usally seen on early 60's vehicle.  All the oil line fitting that I have seen on a 69 Z28 is the one that I have pictured. Even my L48 Z11 Car has this fitting also and it original to the car. Maybe both styles were used, but I never seen that fitting used and a 69 Camaro Gauge Package Car".    
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« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2014, 03:37:31 PM »

His post on TC was sorta confusing as to which one he believed to be correct; his first photo was the one with the 'internally threaded' compression fitting and the last two photos he posted showed an externally threaded compression fitting.   
Steve:  You're saying that you agree with Dave that his 'first photo' shows the correct 'internally threaded' compression fitting?

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I'm sorry that my post / pictures on TC #1 confused you with my verbage or which one I believed to be correct. The correct fitting is the one I posted with both male ends and all those pictures are of the same fitting with and without the oil line cap screwed on.  What I was trying to say or write should have read:  There has been some discussion reference the original oil line brass fitting. The one that keeps being discussed with the female end that is believed to be correct, but isn't is usally seen on early 60's vehicle.  All the oil line fitting that I have seen on a 69 Z28 is the one that I have pictured. Even my L48 Z11 Car has this fitting also and it original to the car. Maybe both styles were used, but I never seen that fitting used and a 69 Camaro Gauge Package Car".   


No problem man...  besides being easily confused, I can't see or hear very well either..  Smiley     when I looked at those three photos, the first one (with the cap on) seems like the other type of fitting, rather than the same fitting with a cap on it...   I can see now that you showed the assembled unit first, then the broken down parts...  Sorry about my confusion!  Smiley
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« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2014, 03:34:46 PM »

Quite a bit posted about this topic, I know. 69Z28 (Gary) asked a week ago under 69ZEE's (Darrell) post about a pic of his fitting. I began to look for my fitting, which I can say without question, is the original fitting off my L48 11D Nor U17 opt. car. There is a small brass pin in the ferrule that goes inside the plastic line. This looks the same as S. Shauger's in post #75. For the record, here are pics:
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