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« on: July 03, 2013, 11:20:07 AM »

Saw this POP over at Team Camaro.
Is this the type reissued to the second owner under warranty?
Must have been one of the first V8's into Canada with such a low VIN

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2013, 03:14:55 PM »

That's what the first owner got, in place of the metal P-O-P that was delivered with U.S.-purchased cars; it was issued by GM of Canada-Oshawa, and mailed to the new car owner. Note the paragraph below the card where it talks about receiving the card in the mail.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 07:04:43 PM »

Why would it have such a late date for such an early car?
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2013, 01:45:35 AM »

It could have sat on the lot for a while. Could have been driven by an employee or family member or the owner of the dealership.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2013, 11:50:26 AM »

That's what the first owner got, in place of the metal P-O-P that was delivered with U.S.-purchased cars; it was issued by GM of Canada-Oshawa, and mailed to the new car owner. Note the paragraph below the card where it talks about receiving the card in the mail.

So what happens to the metal POP placed in the car at the factory? Are they not made up for cars slated for export to Canada?

Is there such a thing as second owner warranty plates for Canadian cars like there is for domestic cars?

Is there any decoding information for the Canadian POP's?

Thanks for your response. CRG data on POP's is pretty thin.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2013, 11:56:36 AM »

It could have sat on the lot for a while. Could have been driven by an employee or family member or the owner of the dealership.


08A 1966 car first sold on 3/15/67

I can't imagine a Camaro sitting unsold at a dealership for very long in 1966/67. They where in big demand!
Maybe it was the dealers promo, personal, or demo car.

trim tag from this car:

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 10:50:04 AM »


So what happens to the metal POP placed in the car at the factory? Are they not made up for cars slated for export to Canada?

Is there any decoding information for the Canadian POP's?

Thanks for your response. CRG data on POP's is pretty thin.

We don't know for sure (not many data points), but we think the metal P-O-P was removed by the receiving dealer when the car was sold, and forwarded with the customer's name and address to GM of Canada HQ, who then created the plastic Canadian P-O-P and mailed it to the customer.

There's not much on the card to decode - only the two numbers above and to the left of the "GM" symbol; we don't know what they are (most likely some sort of account number for the car and the dealer).
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2013, 12:42:20 AM »

Since GM of Canada has the records for these cars, it shouldn't be too difficult to decode once you get enough plates.
Then again, why bother if you have the GM Canadian DOC's

Here is another random Canadian POP off the web. It has an extra field with BCD.



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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2013, 08:24:59 AM »

Since GM of Canada has the records for these cars, it shouldn't be too difficult to decode once you get enough plates.
Then again, why bother if you have the GM Canadian DOC's

Here is another random Canadian POP off the web. It has an extra field with BCD.





No pic - just a red "X".
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2013, 12:33:00 AM »

Codes on the POP -
The FCO # is the order # - I don't recall what the abbreviation stands for. Shows up on the Canadian docs.

The other # is the dealer code.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2013, 03:09:57 PM »

Not sure this is accurate, but per an internet search, FCO in international trading is:

Full Corporate Offer .

This is the final, detailed, specific offer that the seller is sending to the buyer.   Makes sense?
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2013, 07:45:40 PM »

Since GM of Canada has the records for these cars, it shouldn't be too difficult to decode once you get enough plates.
Then again, why bother if you have the GM Canadian DOC's

Here is another random Canadian POP off the web. It has an extra field with BCD.





No pic - just a red "X".

Hmmm, it was showing up for me then, but is also gone for me now.

I will try again.-

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