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« on: July 02, 2013, 02:28:38 PM »

I am new to this sight and am fresh off the Camaro Nationals legends show.  It was a blast and a great experience.  Had the car judged (stressful at that level) and in return got a nice list of things to be done.  One in particular was odd to me. Judges said the bolts for the engine hooks were incorrect.  They are installed under the same bolts that hold the manifold on.  Im confused, did they have 2 different bolts for the engine hooks and then the rest were manifold bolts?  Thanks for your input and more to come. lol
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 02:31:35 PM »

lol my bad its a 69 z with a build date of 04D and was built in Van Nuys plant
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 10:26:59 PM »

Yes, the bolts for the engine hooks were shouldered. The rest were not. If that is the worst thing they found, you did pretty well! Welcome to the site. It's a great place for info. Great car people here.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 09:03:10 AM »

thanks do you have a picture of them ?  are they the same finish as the others only shouldered?  Thanks so much
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 09:38:43 AM »

I was also in MD at the Camaro Nats, and greatly enjoyed it, meeting great people and seeing some fantastic cars.   What year? and which one was yours?? 
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 04:11:57 PM »

Not the clearest picture, but this gives you an idea what the shouldered bolt looks like.  Jerry MacNeish rebuilt/restored the engine.

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2013, 07:19:36 PM »

Hans did you paint the intake and thermostat housing?
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 08:16:04 PM »

Were the shoulder bolts used on big blocks also?
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 08:52:24 PM »

Here is a clear pic of ours off our 68Z. This is one of the three originals. Our 68 had one each used for the engine lift hooks and one used for alternator support.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 09:01:39 PM »

Not the clearest picture, but this gives you an idea what the shouldered bolt looks like.  Jerry MacNeish rebuilt/restored the engine.

Interesting details, dimpled (manifold) carb studs (?) and partially painted head on intake manifold plane.   
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2013, 10:01:20 AM »

Hans did you paint the intake and thermostat housing?

No, that's natural aluminum for both.  Jerry restored both using his aluminum restoration process.  He also did the valve covers and distributor.    The above picture was taken the day I received it back (late January this year).
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2013, 12:26:06 PM »

Edgemontvillage was referring to the engine orange on the head surface between the valve cover and intake manifold... ie. the upper part of the machined surface for intake gasket...  which normally would not get painted on such an engine (with aluminum manifold and aluminum valve covers)..
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2013, 03:00:21 PM »

Edgemontvillage was referring to the engine orange on the head surface between the valve cover and intake manifold... ie. the upper part of the machined surface for intake gasket...  which normally would not get painted on such an engine (with aluminum manifold and aluminum valve covers)..

I really don't know.  I'd be curious to get Jerry MacNeish's input - he restored the engine back to factory spec.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2013, 02:50:23 AM »

Edgemontvillage was referring to the engine orange on the head surface between the valve cover and intake manifold... ie. the upper part of the machined surface for intake gasket...  which normally would not get painted on such an engine (with aluminum manifold and aluminum valve covers)..

I really don't know.  I'd be curious to get Jerry MacNeish's input - he restored the engine back to factory spec.

Very interesting. I thought that the lift brackets were unpainted ok aluminum intake cars. Perhaps I was wrong. I just stripped the paint off of mine.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2013, 09:06:11 AM »

For the small population of original cars I've looked at it seems many 69's and later (70 LT1's) had natural lift hooks. There was a real debate about this on the Yenko site sometime back. On our 68 I have them painted but here is a late Sept. 69 built Z/28 survivor with no paint.

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