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« on: July 02, 2013, 11:58:43 AM »

Does anyone have the company or code number for the GM silver that goes on the Rally wheels?  I want to get them powder coated. and the powder coat company I went to is asking me if it is, for example, Cardinal or some other.  Thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 01:46:24 PM »

From a search:
(Chevelles forum)
"The 1969 reference page here:    http://www.chevellestuff.com/1969/paint.htm
says this:
The lower body panel on Malibus for Argent Silver is DuPont mixing formula 927-95905 or 41253, Ditzler (PPG) color number is DE-8568."

and ...
"Argent Silver is PPG #8568
Ditzler DE-8568
DuPont 42153
Ditzler DQE-8568
DuPont 9692L


DCC DK Argent Met. Flat NX
Match to DDL32961

DMC 900 38.0 38.0
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DMC 983 110.0 158.0
DMC 902 153.0 311.0
DX 685 850.0 1161.0
DMC 981 790.0 1951.0
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 01:50:37 PM »

and also from Team Chevelle forum, Rustynutznrods writes:....

"Eastwood makes a Hotcoat Argent Silver base (part # 10102). The issue with silver powder coating is that they all require a clear topcoat. It's not a bad solution if you're not concerned with originality. But it's obvious to the experienced eye that the finish is not original.

We've done a lot of wheels in satin black powder coat with the correct Argent Silver sprayed on the wheel face. The paint codes are DuPont 9692L or Ditzler DQE-8568. "
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 02:38:44 PM »

This is very helpful.  Thank you for the prompt response.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 03:36:57 PM »

This is very helpful.  Thank you for the prompt response.

So can the wheel face be sand blasted and then masked to later spray paint the Argent Silver?  I ask this because the powder coat company is saying that masking involves heating issues and can involve overspray.  This is not too much of a concern for me if it can be done.  It was also mentioned that powder coating does not need to involve the clear topcoat.  Is this what gives the wheel that lasting protection from such elements as rust?
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 04:13:03 PM »

and also from Team Chevelle forum, Rustynutznrods writes:....

"Eastwood makes a Hotcoat Argent Silver base (part # 10102). The issue with silver powder coating is that they all require a clear topcoat. It's not a bad solution if you're not concerned with originality. But it's obvious to the experienced eye that the finish is not original.

We've done a lot of wheels in satin black powder coat with the correct Argent Silver sprayed on the wheel face. The paint codes are DuPont 9692L or Ditzler DQE-8568. "
  Where the inside of the wheels originally black?
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 06:23:36 PM »

yes  , black .
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 10:20:47 PM »

Have the whole wheel powdercoater black. Then scuff the outside and spray argent silver. I did this on my 67 rally's and they came out great. Please note that there is overspray that gets on the inside of the wheels.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 02:27:48 PM »

Have the whole wheel powdercoater black. Then scuff the outside and spray argent silver. I did this on my 67 rally's and they came out great. Please note that there is overspray that gets on the inside of the wheels.
X2 - on the please note. There should be silver overspray on the inside.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2013, 07:10:45 PM »

I know this is an older tread but do you guy recommend sand blasting the rims or is there another (Safer) way to get the old paint, and rust off?

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2013, 09:32:35 PM »

You can tumble the wheels, it's a lot less abrasive
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2013, 11:03:15 PM »

Ok here is my 2 cents: I have a set of powder coated wheels in the correct argent silver on my impala. While they will never rust I have a couple of issues with them. Along with the wheels and anything else as Gary mentioned powder coated items have a different sheen to them, so on the wheels it looks like a slight orange peel affect. powder coating them in black first is a great idea and then scuffing out side and spraying in argent sounds good to me. BUT hold on a sec!
Glass beading or sand blasting is a quick easy way, and IMO the easiest if you access to one, but please Note* the glass particles or sand will get stuck in the cracks of the wheel where they welded the inner piece to the outer rim of the wheel. If you do not clean this they will powder right over it, and it will look like CRAP. Take the extra time to take a razor blade or utility knife into those tight areas and pry all those little bits of sand and glass out. Then take some 200 and get it in there just to get the extra dust and dirt out. I am super picky, so I have found this works best so far, so when you do powder or paint it will look really good.
Unless you plan on driving in salt paint should work just fine.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2013, 08:23:28 AM »

BULLITT65     Have you tried soda blasting ? I've heard nothing but good , but would like to get some opinions from guys on this site before I pick a portable one up to do the rear end. Also heard if some of the media does find it's way in it will dissolve.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2013, 10:32:16 AM »

You can tumble the wheels, it's a lot less abrasive
What do you mean by tumble the wheels?  I've never heard of that.  Huh
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2013, 10:15:24 PM »

It is a box with media in it. You put the part in and it tumbles the part and cleans it up. I believe this is the process that Jerry uses on his aluminum parts. Any big blasting company will have a tumbler.
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