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« on: May 23, 2013, 06:07:46 AM »

Hi, recently joined the forum.  I've had a look through some of the discussions and surprised to see that a number of Camaros were sold in France.  I bought my 67 RS convertible in Cambodia a few years ago and it has a GM France sticker on one of the side windows, ELF stickers on the windscreen and the yellow driving lights behind the grille.  It is now in Australia and still unrestored and looks a bit rough as you'll see from the photograph.
I'm interested in finding out some history on the car, particularly where it was assembled and who originally purchased it.  Appreciate any advice on where I could start to track this information down.
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 07:34:03 AM »

From the US, to France, then Cambodia, and now to Aussie..  *G*   Your Camaro is a true WORLD TRAVELER...
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 09:45:19 AM »

Aus,
 Post pictures of your trim tag, VIN, engine pad, and any tags or stickers you may find. pictures of the yellow driving lights, side markers, wheels, seat belts and belt tags would also be intristing. That information would get you  started. I like original, unmolested cars.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 03:51:48 AM »

Hi,  I'll get some more photos as you suggest next time I'm home.  Chassis Number   is 124677N196258, engine number 11404 TI 219D
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 03:52:58 AM »

Couple more photos
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 03:53:52 AM »

And one more.

Cheers.
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 03:55:18 AM »

Another interior shot
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2013, 05:19:18 AM »

Great car, with a very interesting life! I know folks would love to see photos of the vin plate and firewall trim tag, and If you get a chance, could you please post a photo of the speedometer in km?
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2013, 05:39:35 AM »

What was, or is, that diamond shaped bracket in front of the grille for?  Did someone add it, or is it factory?
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 06:27:05 AM »

I'll get some photos of the tags next time I'm home. Dash photo attached, indicated 52,651 km but not sure if that is correct.
Not sure if the diamond ornament on the dash is original, it looks well done but may be an add-on done in Cambodia.  The story goes that the car was given to the King of Cambodia as a gift by the French government, but I haven't been able to verify this.  You'll notice also the small turned attachments on either side below the bumper.  Apparently these held the King's flags for processions and the like.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2013, 05:22:56 PM »

Thanks very much for the speedo photo! What part of Aus are you in?
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2013, 06:29:30 AM »

Not far from the sign you use as your photo by the look of it.  Currently in far North Queensland, but Victoria is home.  You?
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2013, 05:56:22 PM »

Nice car and very neat history on the car as well.
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2013, 03:36:06 AM »

Currently in far North Queensland, but Victoria is home.  You?
Western NSW.... but have family near Mackay.
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2013, 11:30:14 PM »

Any chance of seeing that trim tag? Looks like a pretty loaded car, not uncommon for an export car.
I see PW, PB, RS, AC, maybe stereo, guages, etc.
Does it also have a French tag under the hood?

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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2013, 06:53:41 AM »

Yes it does have the French tag.  I've got photos and will post shortly.  I've also managed to track down a movie the car is in which the King of Cambodia made in 1969.  The quality is bad and the movie is ordinary, but worth a quick look. If you cut and paste the following into your browser it will take you to it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15JHdB0O9sM
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2013, 08:33:50 AM »

What a cool story ! ( watched the clip on youtube also) Love to hear and see more on this car !

Who was #1 owner ? Or did I miss it somewhere ?

Mine never left a 10 mile square area--- that ones an international.
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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2013, 06:11:02 AM »

Photo of the US plate. Sorry it's a bit difficult to read. I haven't worked out what it all means yet.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2013, 06:12:49 AM »

French Plate
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2013, 06:14:12 AM »

Both plates to show locations
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2013, 06:16:05 AM »

Remnants of the GM France sticker on the RHS rear window.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2013, 06:18:51 AM »

Trunk emblem. Not sure what this is but guess it may be the importer? Another terrible quality photo but you get the idea!
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2013, 06:24:00 AM »

Missed the question re #1 owner.  I was told the car was given to the King of Cambodia by the French government in 1967 but don't know how I'd verify this. The movie seems the best indication it was his car but unless I can get some documentation from GM France it is all circumstantial.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2013, 12:45:27 PM »

Trunk emblem. Not sure what this is but guess it may be the importer? Another terrible quality photo but you get the idea!
My guess is that "R. Devivilier" was a French dealer who originally 'sold' the car (and that could certainly have been to the French gov't, as well as anyone else)?
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2013, 03:41:03 AM »

It looks like a great candidate to clean up. I don't see the diamond grill in the video, also didn't notice any "RS" emblems.
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2013, 04:27:55 AM »

Actually I don't see any emblems at all? Seems like someone may have gone through the trouble of locating some and installing them at one point?
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2013, 06:12:50 AM »

Yes, still lots of unanswered questions! Wheels are also different but pretty unlikely there were two of these in Cambodia at that time.  I think it is more likely they removed the emblems for the movie then replaced them afterwards.  There are some interior shots later in the film and seat trim etc all looks correct, but the quality is very ordinary as you've seen so difficult to be sure.  I am trying to get a better quality copy of the movie but no luck so far.
I haven't seen these type wheels on any other cars. Does anyone know if they were an option orare they just something they ound that fitted? They are similar to wheels on GM cars in Australia around that time.
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2013, 03:45:50 PM »

They look like pontiac style steel wheels, that I have seen with "PMD" center caps. The pontiac wheels aren't that hard to come by, over here (USA), but you may get some decent coin over there if a pontiac is over there that is in need of the wheels. (if there not to corroded or rusty). They may have come on the Holden cars sold in Austrailia at the time as well.
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2013, 03:28:34 PM »

Hi from France.
There are a lot of camaros like your in my country,most of them where a lot of options
Deluxeint, disc brakes,power top windows etc..just like mine
It's seem that the addon from lights where introduces after january 67 because my 129xxx never had them but most oh french cars have.68 too.

For the wheels .rallyes where standard because of the front power disc brake no front drums available ...

And all the french import where build in nortwood. it seem no los angeles built originaly exported.

Forthe french trim tag that's the first time i see this one at the place of yours...generaly they're located at the right side just near the blower motor

http://www.chevrolet-camaro.net/forum/forum_tro.php?page=2&return=1&msg=179711

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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2014, 02:46:16 PM »

Nicely optioned car!
Convertible
Power Top
Power Windows
Tilt Wheel
Head Rests
Deluxe Interior
R.S. Option
Bumper Gaurds
Am/Fm Radio
Factory Tach / Gauges
Air Conditioning
Power Brakes
I wonder if it has disc brakes and 12 bolt
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2014, 05:03:40 AM »

Has front disc brakes, haven't had a close look at the diff but assume it is not 12 bolt with 327 and powerglide.  Will have a look when I'm home next.
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2014, 06:52:51 AM »

Nicely optioned car!
Convertible
Power Top
Power Windows
Tilt Wheel
Head Rests
Deluxe Interior
R.S. Option
Bumper Gaurds
Am/Fm Radio
Factory Tach / Gauges
Air Conditioning
Power Brakes
I wonder if it has disc brakes and 12 bolt

i don't sink that the headrests on the picture are from factory...even the suffix Y is at the cawl tag
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2014, 12:05:14 PM »

 Philip the Y on the trim tag is  Bucket seats with headrests.
Here's how the trim tag decodes....
03D = March 67 4th week
67-12667 = Camaro convertible with custom interior
765-Y = Black custom bucket / Bucket seats with headrests
XDL =power windows, power top, fold down seat
2EMG = air conditioning, automatic transmission, console
3L = rally sport
4F = remote mirror
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2014, 03:05:03 PM »

Yes i know, that 'swhat i write. But look at the picture, the head rest are.....exotics...
Not the originals ones
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 12:33:52 AM »

Why does it have the single master cylinder. I thought 65 was the last year gm put those in cars. With disk brakes too. Looks strange under the hood. brackets look different, coil placement. Very weird stuff going on there.
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2014, 05:46:54 AM »

The master cylinder would be standard I believe, however the local "mechanics" would not have seen anything like this.  Carburettor was from a Russian truck, air conditioner compressor is gone, coil could be from anything and quite a few other running repairs done throughout it's life.  It has motor oil in the powerglide and it was parked up shortly after that was added I'm guessing.
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