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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2013, 02:41:14 AM »
Not trying to stir this up - I haven't followed the TC thread at all.
I've seen pics of Evening Orchid and seen cars. IMO, it doesn't match the pics of this car that I've seen (or what others describe seeing). But the pics do show some color.
The best suggestion I've heard is 1969 Olds #81 Flamingo Silver. It's has a some lavender in it and it's a 69 color.
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2013, 12:25:07 PM »
The car was an original silver car with stripe delete.  Bill Glowacki and I both inspected what was left of the original paint on the car.  We pulled off the door panels and checked the virgin paint with no UV damage.  It was not Evening Orchid,

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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2013, 01:33:28 PM »
i still can't believe that some posters believe the expert over the original owner who ordered the car. i know jerry is a god here but he is not god almighty.
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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2013, 01:38:02 PM »
To be honest, the older pics of the paint look silver. My gut said orchid at first until I read what everyone else had thought. Now I'm going back to what I originally thought, Orchid. That is going to be one unique looking car. Should draw some attention.
Yep, that's a pretty color... for a girl...   :)     
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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2013, 01:45:10 PM »
To be honest, the older pics of the paint look silver. My gut said orchid at first until I read what everyone else had thought. Now I'm going back to what I originally thought, Orchid. That is going to be one unique looking car. Should draw some attention.
Yep, that's a pretty color... for a girl...   :)     
it was for a girl it was for my wife !!
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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2013, 01:53:00 PM »
I remember seeing '65 Chevelles in that color when they were new; was different, and pretty... but I'm the guy who ordered a '70 Roadrunner in the Limelight color and a 70 Challenger RT/SE in purple! .. but I will use the excuse that the purple challenger was for my wife!!  :)     
PS.  I never knew the name was 'evening orchid' and was just teasing about the 'prom'.. That color did tend to fade badly with age and exposure to the sun's uv... but I'd suppose you're using modern base/clear which should be less susceptible.   The newly painted cars I've seen in that color seem to be a bit more 'orchid' than I recall when they were new...
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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2013, 01:55:45 PM »
The car was an original silver car with stripe delete.  Bill Glowacki and I both inspected what was left of the original paint on the car.  We pulled off the door panels and checked the virgin paint with no UV damage.  It was not Evening Orchid,

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give it up jerry you guys screwed up. unless someone took the VIN from my 69 Z and put it on a silver car you are just CYA. the cowl cutout fpr the cold air cleaner also proves it was my Z/28. ask your buddy john hinkley about my car as he knew about the eveing orchid Z/28 long before this showed up on the camaro web sites because of my posts about it on the vetteheads web site
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2013, 03:51:31 PM »
I did not screw anything up.  I inspected the car just like I do any other car.  The owner at that time also agreed with Bill and me during my evaluation.  Bill G. and I have been doing this for most of our lives.  I know the Evening Orchid color very well and remember the '65 Impalas from my neighborhood in this color.  It is one of my favorites.  Show me the original order form where is says code "P" or special order paint Evening Orchid and then we'll sit down and talk.  I have the photos in my data base from my inspection that show it as Argent silver or something very close to that.  Even the original photos show that.  End of story.  If you wanted to paint the car Evening orchid, you can do what ever you want to do.  It's your car.  Good luck with your project.       

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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2013, 04:01:58 PM »
Here's a clear photo with the roof rail track removed from the pillar area showing the original silver color.  Does not look like Evening orchid to me?

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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2013, 04:22:03 PM »
Clem,
Discuss the topic, not the person! Personal attacks are not allowed here. 1st and only warning.
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2013, 04:29:19 PM »
Clem,
Discuss the topic, not the person! Personal attacks are not allowed here. 1st and only warning.
I did not screw anything up.  I inspected the car just like I do any other car.  The owner at that time also agreed with Bill and me during my evaluation.  Bill G. and I have been doing this for most of our lives.  I know the Evening Orchid color very well and remember the '65 Impalas from my neighborhood in this color.  It is one of my favorites.  Show me the original order form where is says code "P" or special order paint Evening Orchid and then we'll sit down and talk.  I have the photos in my data base from my inspection that show it as Argent silver or something very close to that.  Even the original photos show that.  End of story.  If you wanted to paint the car Evening orchid, you can do what ever you want to do.  It's your car.  Good luck with your project.       
why would i pick that color out of thin air if it was not the original color?
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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2013, 04:32:57 PM »
Clem,
Discuss the topic, not the person! Personal attacks are not allowed here. 1st and only warning.
jerry is calling me a liar or senile as remembering what color my car was. that is what i would call a personal attack.  he never sawthe car till after it was repainted so he is only guessing.
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2013, 04:45:07 PM »
Not calling anyone a liar.  Just stating facts from my inspection on the car and a nice close up photo to back up my findings of silver paint under the roof rail trim.  Let the readers decide for themselves.  I have the invoice to the car too.  It does NOT state Evening orchid on it.   

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2013, 05:19:21 PM »
Not calling anyone a liar.  Just stating facts from my inspection on the car and a nice close up photo to back up my findings of silver paint under the roof rail trim.  Let the readers decide for themselves.  I have the invoice to the car too.  It does NOT state Evening orchid on it.   
you are posting that i have no idea what color MY car was and i would say that is calling me a liar when i say it wqs EO from the factory. looks like the new owner has more faith in my opinion than yours. i belive you do not want this one of a kind special paint camaro to take the place of your camaro as the one the camaro fans talk about.
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Re: my 69 Z being restored
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2013, 05:29:26 PM »
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. 

Just so you know, I am in the process of restoring a '65 Impala SS396 convertible for myself.  I looked six years to find the right number's matching car.  I was going to paint it Evening Orchid but then decided against it because of the rare interior color and advise from other big car experts.  So, it's going back as Ermine white as it was from the factory.