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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2006, 01:09:09 AM »
19N640143 can't quite make out the first number after the N but being an 05A it wouldn't be anything but a 6 and the 2nd 4 could be a different number...
 As to why someone would stamp it down by the oil filter is because that is where the May built cars would have been stamped and it would be easier to pass off as a matching number engine.
Deck a block that has no vin at the bell housing flange... then restamp the build date and suffix code, then stamp a Vin on the bell housing flange, it is easier for an unscrupulous seller to explain that the engine block was "decked along time ago during a rebuild" or "was decked inadvertently but the vin on 69's is down by the oil filter so it has matching numbers."

Does the car have a POP? If so it will have the engine build date on it.

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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2006, 03:35:12 AM »
That pad is restamped.
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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2006, 04:11:32 AM »
That pad is restamped.

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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2006, 04:21:30 AM »
That pad is restamped.
As ever, A man of few words ;-)

I don't see this fellow very often, so now the question is whether or not to share the above info wiht him and burst his bubble.  He's not looking to sell the car...I think it's a keeper at this point.  I figured out his quarters were replaced and let him know and he was kinda bummed about that (looks like GM not repro quarters were used and it is not a bad job by any means).  I know the tranny is not original to the car...don't recall the rear axle details. 


And no, there is no documentation to go with the car.

For my edification, at what point did it become standard practice to stamp the VIN by the oil filter?  I had alwasy thought it was possible that either location could be used, but having just checked the CRG site :-) I see  it is noted as a "mid-model year" change...since mid model year would normally be around January or so is that when the change over occurs?  Or since '69 is a long production year does it occur later?

I' going to go out and check my '69 307 car (which I got from the original owner) which was built in 05A at Norwood as well and see where it's VIN is stamped....Kurt, I think you took a picture of that pad along with the '67 coupe.

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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2006, 04:34:34 AM »
For NOR cars, the VIN stamp location changed around January.  LOS cars changed over a few months later.

Your 05A NOR 307 should be near the oil filter.  Will be tough to see.


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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2006, 07:01:29 AM »
If the original trans is in the car snap a pic of the Vin stamping on it and if you can get a better one of the engine Vin that would be great as well.
The pair of them should display the same characteristics.
 

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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2006, 04:30:55 PM »
Wolfie,

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Re: your thoughts on date code 302
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2006, 09:10:04 PM »
If the original trans is in the car snap a pic of the Vin stamping on it and if you can get a better one of the engine Vin that would be great as well.
The pair of them should display the same characteristics.
 

As previously mentioned the tranny is not original to the car....that much we knew.  So no help there.  I suppose that it could be the original block that was rebuilt/decked and then restamped but of course no way to prove that jsut supposition.