Author Topic: Another Tonawanda Z  (Read 1785 times)

sixt9x33rs

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Another Tonawanda Z
« on: March 03, 2013, 01:17:19 AM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Chevy-Camaro-Matching-Motor-4-Speed-Maybe-Early-Z-28-car-NO-RESERVE-/151004076324?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item23288b5924

This one is interesting with the VIN by the oil filter, looks like a 70 rear end out of a Nova, no picture of the stamp on the tranny
'69 RS Z/28 Olympic Gold, 711
Flat hood no spoiler, black top, endura, 4:10
POP 39,000
69 X77 Z/28 69 711 Original Paint Unrestored
'69 X66 Convertible Cortez Silver 712 black top Endura, auto, bumper guards, am/fm rear speaker 44k miles

1968RSZ28

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 01:57:58 AM »

z28z11

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 04:05:45 AM »
A challenge - by my count 28 separate incorrect details with this car, minor to major. groups to individual details. The laundry list is large - how many can exist on the same vehicle ? I love the statement 'got the car from a old buddy who told him it was a real Z'. At least the seller asks you to make your own determination or interpretation of originality - and it's already bid to $19K. I'm in the wrong business - I should be selling F1's for a living - but I couldn't get past the obvious.

As always, my own opinions -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 09:16:27 PM »
Link below to seller's Photobucket album of this car. Note the album title/description states "69 Z28 CLONE", unlike the eBay ad "maybe a z/28, you determine". Surely an issue with not providing full disclosure.....
http://s1183.photobucket.com/albums/x464/logisticnorth/69%20Z28%20CLONE/

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 10:03:58 PM »
In 2000, the car used to have no original drivetrain or trim tag....
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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 11:54:29 PM »
In 2000, the car used to have no original drivetrain or trim tag....

If you really get to thinking about it, it still don't have an Original Drive Train or Trim Tag.  HAHA
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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 04:43:15 AM »
My concern is the damage these misrepresentations due to our hobby - I guess there is nothing that can keep people from believing what they see as being correct, at least in their minds. Really a shame, but like anything else, it's "buyer beware" - whoever is top bidder on this car is going to have to work hard to get this thing turned into an original car. Probably gets a shock if and when he tries to sell it -

Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06

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69Z28freak

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 07:28:58 AM »
And then there is this guy who thinks this tag is real.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/best-of-the-best-/111021767306?ru=http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=111021767306&_rdc=1&forcev4exp=true

Too bad. Looks like someone spent some time to do a not bad restoration. CAutions sticker is always a dead give away that not enough research was done on the car. I just don't get why this is such a problem. Hasn't it been discussed enough for people to catch on?
Mike 1969 Grandma Camaro

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 03:12:47 PM »
Noticed this one was removed from auction - wonder if it sold, or just removed for further tweaking ? Pretty car, but details like the shroud warning tag are an instant flag that someone didn't complete their homework assignment -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06

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Re: Another Tonawanda Z
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 07:46:57 AM »
Noticed this one was removed from auction - wonder if it sold, or just removed for further tweaking ? Pretty car, but details like the shroud warning tag are an instant flag that someone didn't complete their homework assignment -

Regards,
Steve

Agreed
Mike 1969 Grandma Camaro