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CRG Data Base
« on: January 20, 2013, 03:00:16 AM »
Ed, Could you check your "data base" and see if my VIN # is in it??  If it isn't, could you let me know how it can be added??  Here's my 1969 Camaro's Vin # 124379N611808.   Thank You!   Don

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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 07:44:09 PM »
It's in there - it was on ebay in 2002.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 08:03:05 PM »
Sorry Don. Don't know how I missed this one. Thanks Kurt.

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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 09:12:01 PM »
Is this data base, mentioned above, only for the high performance camaros or is it for everyone produced and still alive?
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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 09:18:16 PM »
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Is this data base, mentioned above, only for the high performance camaros or is it for everyone produced and still alive?

All cars, from the base 6 cylinder with no options to the ZL1

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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 02:13:32 AM »
Some data comes from dealer documents; no way to know if a car still exists. Some undoubtedly do not.

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 03:23:15 AM »
maybe i missed a memo, Is the data base visible by current members? Who keeps all the information? if your car is in the data base what are the benefits? Can an owner learn anything about their car? I was curious about my motors stamping one time and Kurt was able to say it was the correct original stamp and provide a picture, but when I asked for my info, I never got a response. Did he get this from the data base? what is the big secret of where the info comes from if I am the owner of the car? maybe I am still missing something here?
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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 07:36:34 AM »
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Is this data base, mentioned above, only for the high performance camaros or is it for everyone produced and still alive?

All cars, from the base 6 cylinder with no options to the ZL1

Ed

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s my car in it then? 69 X44 and VIN 124379N611150
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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2013, 02:55:09 PM »
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Is my car in it then? 69 X44 and VIN 124379N611150

It sure is Hakan. From December of 2008. Thanks!

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maybe i missed a memo, Is the data base visible by current members? Who keeps all the information? if your car is in the data base what are the benefits? Can an owner learn anything about their car? I was curious about my motors stamping one time and Kurt was able to say it was the correct original stamp and provide a picture, but when I asked for my info, I never got a response. Did he get this from the data base? what is the big secret of where the info comes from if I am the owner of the car? maybe I am still missing something here?

The database isn't made public because of all the personal information in it. You can imagine the field day the shysters would have loaded with this info! The cars are entered by Daniel (he does the 67's), myself (I do the 68's) and Kurt, who does the 69's, and is also the main database coordinator. And not everyone in the CRG MEMBERSHIP has access. This may sound strange, but keeping personal information personal, is job one, so only a few people actually have access. Data can be extrapolated if someone needs it for, say, a report they're writing, but again, the only way to get accurate data without having to worry about comprimising personal data is to keep it close to the vest!

As for benefits, every data point we have is used to create not only the reports we write, but the rest of the information we post on the site. We have almost 19k entries, so we have a pretty good idea of how these cars were manufactured.

However, we DON'T validate or authenticate cars. There are others that do that for a living and frankly, we just don't have the time to travel back and forth doing this. We're all volunteers and even this takes up a lot of time!

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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2013, 03:34:07 PM »
Question regarding the data base: is there any plan to do some statistical analysis when enough data points exist? Sort of like Jerry M's 67 Z/28 analysis? Like you need more to do, sorry!

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Re: CRG Data Base
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2013, 03:49:20 PM »
We already have Jim. Things like the percent of EXTERIOR COLORS, percent of INTERIOR COLORS, etc...

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2013, 06:58:10 PM »
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=5444.0 also explains the db.

Also, I'm running 12,000-13,000 emails a year. I don't always answer them all....................
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2013, 08:03:14 PM »
Kurt,
Well You actually answered my email about the engine stamp, you were just very cryptic or non responsive when I inquired about any other info or where the information was obtained. I would think the owner of a Camaro that is in the data base would be privy to the information on his or her car. That person may learn something about there car that they otherwise wouldn't have been able to find out.
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Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2013, 10:26:06 PM »
I wasn't being cryptic, I just didn't reply. Sorry.
Data came from car being for sale in 2008, when you bought it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 12:55:59 AM »
Thank you, I appreciate the response. I was hoping you may have had info prior to my purchase, when the original owners wife sold it in late 2007. I was curious how much it sold for then. Other than VIN number and motor stamp, is there any other info on each car that is kept in the data base?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV