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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 10:48:48 AM »

NEAT photo John...     Smiley
and your hair appeared to have a bit more color in it then?? Smiley

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37 years in Production, including being a Plant Manager, will do that to you! :-)

The car in front of the Firebird is a Caprice "47" style, with the concave back window.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2013, 03:16:44 PM »

I know what you mean John..  Smiley    most of my hair has turned 'clear'...  Smiley

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2013, 03:44:07 PM »

That is a good looking 69 Bird... Red with Redlines.
I see the Pontiac Axles did not have the backing plates in place when the rear ends were painted... Neat difference.
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2013, 05:18:27 PM »

You can tell that from those photographs???
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2013, 06:57:58 PM »

You can tell that from those photographs???
Quite clearly, however I do have a high def 24" LCD.
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James
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 11:57:48 AM »

You can tell that from those photographs???

I have a much higher-resolution version of that photo (too large to post here), and it shows the unpainted backing plate quite clearly.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2013, 02:31:34 PM »

thanks.. Smiley ..  NOW I can see what you mean.. Smiley
so were the backing plates on Pontiac Firebirds left 'bare'.. to rust?  or ??
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2013, 03:28:05 PM »

That's a VERY COOL photo John.  Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2013, 11:20:10 AM »

Anyone?  On the original  question about early cars having  any one off type items or parts. Probably best to pose that to a firebird enthusiast site but thought there may be someone familiar with them here. 
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2013, 07:30:29 PM »

[quote author=JohnZ link=topic=10410.msg78790#msg78790 date=1358873868

I have a much higher-resolution version of that photo (too large to post here), and it shows the unpainted backing plate quite clearly.
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Could you e-mail it to me please John?
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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2013, 07:52:31 PM »

Here you go.

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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2013, 01:34:37 PM »

It appears the exhaust is painted on both sides on the turn downs so as not to show behind the wheel in the wheel house...


Photos like this are invaluable to those of us trying to replicate assembly line authentic finishes and assemblies during our restorations.
The understanding JOHNZ has brought with the research report from sheet metal to drive off is irreplaceable to any restorer of first gens, this is why I was questioning JOHN as to the differences in the processes between the two plants. I also restore Pontiacs so any information as to how things arrived/were done within that division helps me as well.

Understanding assembly lines helps immensely when putting assemblies into cars, if done how the factory originally did it, the restorations go together correctly the first time, rather than assembling then disassembling in order to install an assembly which should have already been in place. 
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 11:29:59 AM »



I have a much higher-resolution version of that photo (too large to post here), and it shows the unpainted backing plate quite clearly.
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John, Can you tell from your picture if the forward wheel well plug has undercoating sprayed on it? Thanks. George
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2013, 11:35:44 AM »

John, Can you tell from your picture if the forward wheel well plug has undercoating sprayed on it? Thanks. George

Hard to tell, but I'd say it doesn't.
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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2013, 01:21:00 PM »



I have a much higher-resolution version of that photo (too large to post here), and it shows the unpainted backing plate quite clearly.

Firebirds used Pontiac-produced rear axles. Camaro rear axles were painted after assembly including brake drums and backing plates. Plenty of photos of this in vintage car mags.
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