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VINCE Z28

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X codes on non RS cars.
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:23:00 PM »
 Hey guys I'm new to CRG but not new to first gen canaros. Can anyone tell me if the 69 camaro X codes in the decoder here on CRG is good infromation, ie non  RS = X55 , X77, X44, X66? I'v seen so many X77, X55 RS cars for sale over the years.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 12:39:48 AM »
from my limited experience the decoder is spot on.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 12:41:21 AM »
my understanding is that the x codes have nothing to do with the Ralley Sport option.  Rallay Sport was the Z22 option not the x codes.

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#XnnCodes

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 01:06:53 AM »
If you look at the 1969 Norwood Fisher code Interpertation, the right hand column has, without Z21 style trim (or Z22 Rally sport ) below X44, X55, X66, X77. This leads me to think all are non RS cars. Am I mistaken in thinking so? Terry

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 01:47:02 AM »
Rally sport included style trim. Without style trim it can not be a rally sport. Style trim does not have to be rally sport. My x11 with style trim is not a rally sport.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2013, 02:48:39 AM »
If you look at the 1969 Norwood Fisher code Interpertation, the right hand column has, without Z21 style trim (or Z22 Rally sport ) below X44, X55, X66, X77. This leads me to think all are non RS cars. Am I mistaken in thinking so? Terry
Yes that is correct Terry. Z21 style trim is what makes these cars X11,22 and 33. W/O style trim you get the X 44,55,66,77. RS has nothing to do with X- codes.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2013, 04:13:37 AM »
So what your saying is any of the X coded cars can have the Rally Sport option? Terry

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2013, 04:17:55 AM »
Yes that is correct Terry. Z21 style trim is what makes these cars X11,22 and 33. W/O style trim you get the X 44,55,66,77. RS has nothing to do with X- codes.
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so then you could order a X66 with rally sport package? or did you need to order the Z21 option in order to get the Z22 option
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2013, 05:43:23 AM »
Based on the above info, ONLY the X11, X22, and X33 could be a RS...  based on the fact that all RS have Style Trim...
X44, X55, X66, X77 could NOT be or have RS option, since they do not include style trim.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2013, 06:05:05 AM »
X11, X22, and X33 would have style trim or RS. No way to tell which from the tag.
X44, X55, X66, X77  could *NOT* have style trim or RS.

Tell me how to make that clearer in the table and I will...
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 06:55:16 AM »
So what your saying is no car came from the factory coded X44, X55, X66 and X77 with the rally sport option. Terry

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 09:03:52 AM »
x44, x55, x66, x77 did not have RS from factory.
None of them came with style trim. style trim is is part of RS.
You can not have RS without style trim.
You can exclude RS based on the trim tag, but you can not confirm it.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 03:41:19 PM »
Thanks Tom, you've cleared my the muddy waters. Terry 

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2013, 06:25:42 AM »
Glad I could help

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2013, 09:54:35 PM »
Tom I have a question for you... I have detailed pictures of my former 69 RS / SS  L 78 numbers, early LA car. Plus some pictures from the original owner back in the day. I thought it could be useful for the registry. But I don't know if because I don't own it any more if I'm crossing a line. Terry

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2013, 03:12:50 AM »
Pictures are personal property.  As long as there isn't personal info divulged.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2013, 10:54:12 AM »
I always enjoy pictures, especially if I can learn something from them. I have no influence on the data base, that is managed by the core group responsible for the site, and I believe mostly handled by Kurt. Post the pics!

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2013, 12:34:48 PM »
Tom I have a question for you... I have detailed pictures of my former 69 RS / SS  L 78 numbers, early LA car. Plus some pictures from the original owner back in the day. I thought it could be useful for the registry. But I don't know if because I don't own it any more if I'm crossing a line. Terry

if they are your pics then i don't see a problem with it.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2013, 07:28:07 PM »
All my pictures are 1 MB and I don't know how to reduce them to 150 KB.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2013, 09:43:07 PM »
Use Photobucket or something like that.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2013, 02:33:07 AM »
There is free software you can use to resize your  photos.  Make sure you keep the perspective the same (look for a check box). If you adjust the horizontal pixels to around 800 you should get it close. I don't like hosting photos on other sites because if that account closes the photos disappear from this site. I use software that came with my HP printer.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2013, 01:32:00 PM »
Or the Resize option in Paint.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2013, 03:38:21 AM »
Your pics, yours to post.

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2013, 10:35:01 PM »
 Ok here is one back in February 1969.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2013, 11:07:13 PM »
some more around the same time spand.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 11:34:47 PM »
Loaded car.  RS, SS, 396, D80, bumper guard, deluxe, console, gauges, P06 trim rings.

And no reflection at all from the rear tail panel....

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2013, 01:20:43 AM »
That's what Jerry MacNeish said when he came out to verify the car for the new owner back in 2009. Kurt, I have about 100 photos inside, out and under for the database, if you want them let me know. Terry

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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2013, 09:15:10 PM »
Some paper work transferring the car from one dealer to another.Here is the numbers on the car, stamp pad T0820JH, Date G I 8, Block cast# 3935440, VIN on motor 19L502919 by oil filter area hard to see. Trans. # P9M19, 3925660, VIN stamped on top.  Dist. # 1111499 Date 8G18. Rearend # BN0828G2. Radiator # IL  OO  68  ZD  R   Harrison. Car build date 09 D. Early A.L. car.
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Re: X codes on non RS cars.
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2013, 04:25:31 PM »
Trim tag and Tach.The car was repainted in the 80's rallye green with white Z28 strips. Kurt... you missed the tilt wheel. Terry :)
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