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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #90 on: March 30, 2015, 07:07:50 PM »
Well just saw another 08A car ( N667270) at a show, it also had the 341 rear, and curiously enough no stamp on the axle tube. Could be just coincidence
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #91 on: March 30, 2015, 07:58:32 PM »
Well just saw another 08A car ( N667270) at a show, it also had the 341 rear, and curiously enough no stamp on the axle tube. Could be just coincidence

Are you sure?  I think that VIN should have an 07A tag.  And should be a 3894860 casting on the axle.  Did you see the casting date on the center of the housing?

Was it a Z?
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #92 on: March 30, 2015, 08:04:26 PM »
sorry my mistake, it was a 860. It was a 08A on the tag could have been a repo tag I suppose? It was presented as a Z/28. I could not see the casting date on the housing, ( It was at a car show, not on jack stands or a rack). He let one of us go underneath with a small light and see the stamping on the axle tube, but there wasn't any it was smooth. I went under just to identify which housing, (860).
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #93 on: March 30, 2015, 08:08:38 PM »
It was a 08A on the tag could have been a repo tag I suppose?

Kurt would be able to answer that question better. 

But I think other VINs close to that are 07A.
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #94 on: March 31, 2015, 03:41:29 AM »
It was a 08A on the tag could have been a repo tag I suppose?

Kurt would be able to answer that question better.  

But I think other VINs close to that are 07A.

That VIN is 3260 or so into July's production total of 5111, but that is a 'funny month', in that only about 1/3 as many Camaros as a normal month are shown as being produced that month.  I have wondered if production stopped around 11 July for some reason and not resumed until around 11 August??
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2015, 03:01:44 PM »
July had/has a 2-week shutdown, used for retooling the line for the next model year.
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2015, 03:29:36 PM »
July had/has a 2-week shutdown, used for retooling the line for the next model year.

For a normal year yes, but ... for '69 they continued current production for 5 more months.   Was the shutdown related to a union contract (ie. the workers expect the 2 weeks off in July?) or Was the extended production 'in doubt' at that time in July??  or ??   

August also had reduced production.. as if they were still shut down for half of that month...  Any idea on the reason for that?
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2015, 04:38:29 PM »
Not sure how accurate this is but this is what I have been told over the years.  GM always shutdowns during the July time frame (and still do).  Since there were other cars that were built at NOR & LOS along with the stamping dies discovered being incorrect for the 70 model they had to back pedal due to the led time to have another die made causing the lengthening of the 69 production life..  Im sure this caused suppliers to have to build back up enough units to cover the extended run which in turned caused a slowing of production during August.

Hopefully someone can confirm whether or not this is the truth.
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2015, 05:38:25 PM »
That's been sorta my thought a well Darrel, but I've never read/heard an official GM explanation..  it certainly makes sense to me.   30June has typically been the 'end of a model year'..  with July timeframe being the changeover (the actual changeover time depends on how much of a tooling change is required).
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #99 on: May 10, 2015, 09:11:51 PM »
I am curious, of those that have the "C" stamping on there rear end, does anybody have the protecto plate showing the "C" as well?
« Last Edit: June 11, 2015, 05:28:30 PM by bcmiller »
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #100 on: May 11, 2015, 03:46:02 AM »
That's a great question, Austin...  but I assume you mean a protecto plate for a 'late' '69 model Camaro, rather than for a '70 model, but the question really would apply for 70 models also?    The displacement of the 'C' from the rest of the stamped code still bothers me... Did the '70 models have the 'CAAnnnnGz stamp all together?
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #101 on: May 12, 2015, 12:54:40 AM »
Axle information for VIN 124379N685397:

09C
C BU 0910G1
341, cast date I 2 9
« Last Edit: May 16, 2015, 02:12:44 AM by bcmiller »
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #102 on: May 12, 2015, 01:25:29 AM »
Thanks Rob!  I will add to the summary list above.
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2015, 03:22:55 AM »
That's a great question, Austin...  but I assume you mean a protecto plate for a 'late' '69 model Camaro, rather than for a '70 model, but the question really would apply for 70 models also?    The displacement of the 'C' from the rest of the stamped code still bothers me... Did the '70 models have the 'CAAnnnnGz stamp all together?

rspallina's rear end data, along with the protecto plate has answered the question if the C would show up on a 1969 Protecto plate!~  It doesn't..  yet his late rear end has the 'C'....
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Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #104 on: May 15, 2015, 10:09:19 PM »
REVISED Axle information for VIN 124379N685397 that now includes casting date:

09C
C BU 0910G1
341, I29
« Last Edit: June 14, 2015, 12:26:01 AM by rspallina »
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