Author Topic: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles  (Read 177520 times)

HawkX66

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 766
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2014, 08:11:07 PM »
Nope..   Gary's IS a C rear end..  although the C is partially obscured by an 'impact' wtih a rock or something in the past..?
(Bryan and Kurt finally convinced me there was a 'C' out there in front of the BU..)

see image here..     http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10375.0;attach=10540;image
Gotcha. I think I can barely see it now. That makes sense.
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2014, 03:50:59 AM »
sorry just noticed this thread
Here is a pic of mine from a 08C ( August of 69) car.

Do you have the casting number and casting date from this rear?  Maybe I missed it in an earlier post?
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2014, 06:00:07 AM »
I am going to have look through my archive of pics, since I am not near the car right now.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2014, 06:57:04 PM »
OK, please post up that data when you have a chance.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

wisemanz28

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 233
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2014, 01:29:23 AM »
I have a 860 C.B.U. rear end, casting is  September 6th of 1969 and axle stamped 9 16. I will try to post pics of the C.B.U. axle stamp tomorrow.

wisemanz28

  • Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 233
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2014, 11:41:47 PM »
I was incorrect , my rear end is not a 860 casting it is a 341 casting with a CBU 9 16 tube date and a J 6 casting. I took pics but not sure how to post on this site. My TT has a 9 A date ( 1st week of September) so my rear end is a little late for my car. I see some fellow members on this post have good dates that would be correct for my car. I'm assuming the rear ends are under there cars but if not are any of you guys interested in selling or trading your rear end ? 

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #36 on: June 27, 2014, 01:02:08 PM »
Kurt would be able to answer better, but your axle stamped CBU0916 may be OK for your car.  

You can send pics to my email and I will post them if you want. Click on my username to get my contact info.
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2014, 01:43:21 PM »
Ok Gary got me back under my car and I got the rest of the info. I have the 3969341 rear end, dated (I think ) G 25. So far it looks like the only one with 341 casting but still has just the 2 letter format.
There are a couple of other 08C guys on here ( Sonny, vellu, Jims69, and nick -Daytona Yellow 69 Z)
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #38 on: June 27, 2014, 01:46:50 PM »
I just went through my correspondence with Jim, and his vin is a couple of hundred after mine and his rear end is the 3 letter format. Hopefully he will chime in with his info. So mine may be one of the last of the 2 letter format, and Jims may be one of the first for the 3 letter format.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2014, 02:03:22 PM »
Bullitt's 0815, without the C (but with the 341 rear), and Sarge's WITH the C, stamped 0820..  pretty well brackets the change to use of the 'C' (1970 format) to between the dates of 15 August and 20August 1969.   Bullitt's diff is the later casting number, but without the 'C', so that seems to imply that the two changes (C) and 341 casting, did not occurr simultaneously...

The rear end casting, and use of the 'C' in front of the diff app stamp are two more items to add to our list of intended 1970 changes that were applied to 'late 1969 extended production of Camaros and Corvettes.   I think it would be a good research report to itemize all the things that 'changed', as well as best known dates of change, for late production, and would be useful in the generation of an 'ultimate' Restoration and judging reference manual for Camaros.
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #40 on: June 27, 2014, 02:10:08 PM »
Actually Jims69 will bracket it better, his car is about 197 after mine and his has the C. I sent him a message hopefully he can post the casting and date on his.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

69Z28-RS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5778
  • owner since 4-Apr-1976
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2014, 02:49:52 PM »
Actually Jims69 will bracket it better, his car is about 197 after mine and his has the C. I sent him a message hopefully he can post the casting and date on his.

Wow..   197 cars is like a few hours, unless it's the end of one day/beginning of the next day production, OR with it being a new thing (stamping the C) in the differential plant, perhaps they just weren't consistent yet..?
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2014, 04:24:23 PM »
We are getting closer on this.  When you post, make sure you include not only the casting number and casting date, but the COMPLETE data on the assembly stamp. That includes 2 or 3 letter code, date code, assembly plant and shift.  

And having pics to back up the data would be great.

Will get something written up when things are closer to final.

Thanks!
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

BULLITT65

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4476
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2014, 05:29:05 PM »
You saw my earlier post with the pic of the stamp right?
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
-Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
-Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV

bcmiller

  • CRG Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4011
    • View Profile
Re: Earliest 3969341 and Latest 3894860 axles
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2014, 05:45:08 PM »
Yes, I see it now.  

sorry just noticed this thread Here is a pic of mine from a 08C ( August of 69) car.

You also said
Quote
I have the 3969341 rear end, dated (I think ) G 25.

Can you post a picture of the casting date please?
Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
1967 Camaro RS/SS 396 coupe L35/M40 - 4 generation family project
Looking for 68 Camaro with body # NOR 181016

 

anything