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Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car
« Reply #180 on: March 21, 2015, 02:06:19 PM »
I just posted to the wrong thread. Thanks for the info.  Cool car.

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Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car
« Reply #181 on: April 02, 2015, 07:23:49 PM »
Well this is vague, but is anyone familiar with this car? Obviously not a Trans-Am car, but said to be Traco built, FIA approved. Here is the auction guff that went with it:

Founded by Jim Travers and Frank Coon, Traco Engineering (an amalgam of the partnersís last names) built the engines that dominated a variety of racing series (including Can-Am and Trans Am) throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s. A 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 race car, said to have been prepared by Traco and fitted with a Traco-built 327-cu.in. V-8, crossed the stage in Fort Lauderdale last weekend, selling for the bargain-basement price of $55,000 including buyerís fees.

The 1969 Camaro offered was claimed to be one of two prepared by Traco Engineering to International Federation of Automobile (FIA) specifications, though it isnít clear if the car was raced either domestically or abroad. The Traco-modified 327-cu.in. V-8 is said to be original, and has reportedly been dyno tested to produce 500 horsepower. Though the car wears SCCA stickers, itís unclear if a current vehicle logbook is included, or if it meets the safety requirements of vintage racing organizations in its current form.

Last offered for sale at Mecumís May 2014 Indianapolis, Indiana, auction, the car then bid to a high price of $105,000 but failed to meet its reserve. Offered in Fort Lauderdale with no reserve, the car sold for a fee-inclusive price of $55,000, which is considerably less than it would cost to build a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 Trans-Am clone to this standard, Traco engine aside.  Even without a documented history of racing wins, this could well have been the auctionís biggest bargain.

More info here: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/04/02/traco-built-fia-approved-1969-chevy-camaro-z28-race-car-sells-for-55000-in-florida/?refer=news


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Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car
« Reply #182 on: April 02, 2015, 10:33:30 PM »
Unfortunately, it was likely the overzealous references to Traco Engineering that resulted in the cars no-sale in the first auction, and its depressed sale price in the second. The sales piece of this was written by someone whose primary interest was not based on a genuine historical representation of the car/engine.

Looking at the engine photos in the Hemmingís, it is an LS based platform 327 CID (not a Gen I SBC) with what appears to be a Borla, cross ram EFI system. This powertrain may have been developed during the Jim Jones or Larry Salisbury stewardship of the Traco name, however it is without doubt a stretch to infer there is any relationship to the original Traco Engineering.

Donít get me wrong, the car certainly has potential to be a fun resto-mod driver or track day car. There is nothing wrong with building a tribute car, just represent it as such. The number 6 on the door and original Traco decals make it look more like an Elvis impersonator then a car with genuine historical significance.



Well this is vague, but is anyone familiar with this car? Obviously not a Trans-Am car, but said to be Traco built, FIA approved. Here is the auction guff that went with it:

Founded by Jim Travers and Frank Coon, Traco Engineering (an amalgam of the partnersís last names) built the engines that dominated a variety of racing series (including Can-Am and Trans Am) throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s. A 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 race car, said to have been prepared by Traco and fitted with a Traco-built 327-cu.in. V-8,
More info here: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/04/02/traco-built-fia-approved-1969-chevy-camaro-z28-race-car-sells-for-55000-in-florida/?refer=news



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Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car
« Reply #183 on: April 02, 2015, 10:57:34 PM »
Unfortunately, it was likely the overzealous references to Traco Engineering that resulted in the cars no-sale in the first auction, and its depressed sale price in the second. The sales piece of this was written by someone whose primary interest was not based on a genuine historical representation of the car/engine.

Looking at the engine photos in the Hemmingís, it is an LS based platform 327 CID (not a Gen I SBC) with what appears to be a Borla, cross ram EFI system. This powertrain may have been developed during the Jim Jones or Larry Salisbury stewardship of the Traco name, however it is without doubt a stretch to infer there is any relationship to the original Traco Engineering.

Donít get me wrong, the car certainly has potential to be a fun resto-mod driver or track day car. There is nothing wrong with building a tribute car, just represent it as such. The number 6 on the door and original Traco decals make it look more like an Elvis impersonator then a car with genuine historical significance.



Well this is vague, but is anyone familiar with this car? Obviously not a Trans-Am car, but said to be Traco built, FIA approved. Here is the auction guff that went with it:

Founded by Jim Travers and Frank Coon, Traco Engineering (an amalgam of the partnersís last names) built the engines that dominated a variety of racing series (including Can-Am and Trans Am) throughout the 1960s and into the 1970s. A 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 race car, said to have been prepared by Traco and fitted with a Traco-built 327-cu.in. V-8,
More info here: http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/04/02/traco-built-fia-approved-1969-chevy-camaro-z28-race-car-sells-for-55000-in-florida/?refer=news




Yep, thats about how I saw it too.

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Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car
« Reply #184 on: April 02, 2015, 11:52:28 PM »
It's like taking a great tasting cake and ruining it with mud flavoring.

Why would you take a car that looks and probably drives amazing and ruin it with some tongue-in-cheek "faux" pedigree? That car doesn't need to pretend anything to be awesome.


NOTE: Engine looks trick, but they could have done without the suede/Alcantara dashboard and door panels.  :(