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Camaro on Ebay
« on: December 14, 2012, 08:41:53 PM »
Looking to see what information i can gather from the forum on 69 camaro currently listed on Ebay Item# 181040314775.
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Re: Camaro on Ebay
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2012, 09:19:05 PM »
I don't like it. If d80 equipped it would have a short spoiler, too early for a cowl hood, and I believe too early for the vin stamped by the oil filter. I don't like the pad stamp either. Too early for a 388 block. Wrong headlight bezels, shouldn't have the stainless on the rain gutters. Rust coming thru, no Camaro nameplates on fenders, etc, etc.
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2012, 10:04:45 PM »
I think the trim tag is a repop and I've never seen a Tonawanda engine with DZ  stamp.
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2012, 10:08:16 PM »
Tonawanda stamp on a DZ block...dead give away fake stamp, all DZ engines were built in Flint.
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« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2012, 10:40:04 PM »
VIN:  124379N514669

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Re: Camaro on Ebay
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2012, 11:05:16 PM »
In a bit over 2 hrS it will have a new owner, who will believe he has bought a *real* Z28 (true or not) for something over 25K...
the engine is definitely NOT the correct one... so that makes one suspect everything...
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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2012, 11:39:13 PM »
What's with the door panels??
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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2012, 12:06:59 AM »
What's with the door panels??
Those are optional for people with really bad taste!
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 12:28:49 AM »
 Hmmm...... Isn't the straight 7 number font wrong for a 69 trim tag? Shouldn't it have a curve?

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2012, 12:33:13 AM »
Nice gloss level in the trunk.  He doesn't want any negative comments about the car and you're supposed to keep it to yourself.  Sounds like he's sold questionable stuff before?
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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2012, 02:21:34 AM »
 WOW, $31,001 for a questionable car. Obviously the bidders weren't looking at this site.
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« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2012, 02:25:21 AM »
3310 with a 993 date.. ::)
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »
In my own opinion,

The "purchaser", AKA high bidder, had 263 auctions to his credit on eBay - really makes you wonder if this was a bid-up, or an owner trying to bid the car up to make more from the sale. I've seen similar situations where someone was "selling it for a friend" - turned out to be a situation where the friend was the owner bidding on his own vehicle to increase the bids/activity. A dead giveaway would be if it met a reserve, and then ran into a "non-paying bidder" and got relisted. Not saying this was happening in this case - just makes you wonder, especially when there are sooo many things incorrect about the car.

Too bad - hope no one got snookered, but it sure has the indications.

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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2012, 06:15:31 AM »
The letter C in the axle code shows it is not a '69 Camaro rear, but a '70 Nova rear. The the '661 tranny case was not used until the '70 model year, or the late '69 production Camaros.  Should have a '660 Muncie case being an early built car.

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« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2012, 05:16:14 PM »
Just an FYI , the build date on my 69 RS with block  # 3932388 was 10D, so a 10B could very likely be correct with the ...388 block.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2012, 02:51:56 PM »
Just an FYI , the build date on my 69 RS with block  # 3932388 was 10D, so a 10B could very likely be correct with the ...388 block.
click, but not a z-28. There are documented z-28's with 388 block in February and march when they had a shortage in 618 blocks.
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99 SS hugger orange 6spd NO TTOPS bought new 1 of 54
11 cts-v blk diamond  edition wagon 556hp sick!

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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2013, 04:20:20 PM »
It's got a rather unique trim tag as well.

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Re: Camaro on Ebay
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 08:33:51 PM »
The letter C in the axle code shows it is not a '69 Camaro rear, but a '70 Nova rear. The the '661 tranny case was not used until the '70 model year, or the late '69 production Camaros.  Should have a '660 Muncie case being an early built car.

FYI..  There's another thread concerning the use of the 'C' prefix (3 char codes) for late '69 Camaro rears as well...
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« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2013, 04:51:10 AM »
Car has been listed 3 times now.
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« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2013, 04:33:17 AM »
3310 with a 993 date.. ::)
I was under the impression 3310's were aftermarket Carbs.  I think it should really have a 4053.
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« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 07:18:13 AM »
Car has been listed 3 times now.
Surely a fair bit of shill bidding going on;
First auction ended December 14, 2012 - 48 bids, "sold" for $31,001
Relisted, Second auction ended January 9, 2013 - 50 bids, "sold" for $32,500
Relisted, currently had 45 bids, reached $24,100
Each time, listing states "no reserve", so why doesn't it sell? Hmm....

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« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2013, 01:56:42 PM »
Car has been listed 3 times now.
Surely a fair bit of shill bidding going on;
First auction ended December 14, 2012 - 48 bids, "sold" for $31,001
Relisted, Second auction ended January 9, 2013 - 50 bids, "sold" for $32,500
Relisted, currently had 45 bids, reached $24,100
Each time, listing states "no reserve", so why doesn't it sell? Hmm....


I believe you hit the nail squarely on the head. To me, a sure sign of a ghost bidder is (for example) whoever the bidder on this auction is marked 3***i with 10 auctions to his/her credit, pushing the bid up $500.00 periodically. I watched an auction not long ago that happened just that way - guy was using a proxy seller, anybody can do the same thing. After a while, it may backfire on the seller occasionally, or it hangs until some unsuspecting bidder happens on it and falls for it. I imagine scenario that happens a lot. I hope they lose their collective shirts.

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« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2013, 04:42:18 PM »
If you notice the wining bidder in the last auction  left good feedback to seller.

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Re: Camaro on Ebay
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2013, 06:01:34 PM »
Something  does not seem right to me, not sure how transaction was completed and car still listed by same owner. I would not bid on car.

Paul