Author Topic: Camaro on Ebay (Read 16594 times)

Coupe21 · « **on:** December 14, 2012, 08:41:53 PM »

Looking to see what information i can gather from the forum on 69 camaro currently listed on Ebay Item# 181040314775.
Thanks

HOT3O2 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2012, 09:02:24 PM »

A quick link to the car. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-1969-Chevy-Camaro-Z28-w-302-Matching-Motor-4-Speed-Early-69-car-NO-RESERVE-/181040314775?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2a26d7f997

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2012, 09:19:05 PM »

I don't like it. If d80 equipped it would have a short spoiler, too early for a cowl hood, and I believe too early for the vin stamped by the oil filter. I don't like the pad stamp either. Too early for a 388 block. Wrong headlight bezels, shouldn't have the stainless on the rain gutters. Rust coming thru, no Camaro nameplates on fenders, etc, etc.

tmodel66 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2012, 10:04:45 PM »

I think the trim tag is a repop and I've never seen a Tonawanda engine with DZ stamp.

restore-z28 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2012, 10:08:16 PM »

Tonawanda stamp on a DZ block...dead give away fake stamp, all DZ engines were built in Flint.

1968RSZ28 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2012, 10:40:04 PM »

VIN: 124379N514669

Paul

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:05:16 PM »

In a bit over 2 hrS it will have a new owner, who will believe he has bought a *real* Z28 (true or not) for something over 25K...
the engine is definitely NOT the correct one... so that makes one suspect everything...

77thor · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:39:13 PM »

What's with the door panels??

jacmac · « **Reply #8 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:06:59 AM »

Quote from: 77thor on December 14, 2012, 11:39:13 PM

What's with the door panels??

Those are optional for people with really bad taste!

Mike S · « **Reply #9 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:28:49 AM »

Hmmm...... Isn't the straight 7 number font wrong for a 69 trim tag? Shouldn't it have a curve?

Mike

68Zproject · « **Reply #10 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:33:13 AM »

Nice gloss level in the trunk. He doesn't want any negative comments about the car and you're supposed to keep it to yourself. Sounds like he's sold questionable stuff before?

HOT3O2 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 15, 2012, 02:21:34 AM »

WOW, $31,001 for a questionable car. Obviously the bidders weren't looking at this site.

cook_dw · « **Reply #12 on:** December 15, 2012, 02:25:21 AM »

3310 with a 993 date..

z28z11 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 15, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »

In my own opinion,

The "purchaser", AKA high bidder, had 263 auctions to his credit on eBay - really makes you wonder if this was a bid-up, or an owner trying to bid the car up to make more from the sale. I've seen similar situations where someone was "selling it for a friend" - turned out to be a situation where the friend was the owner bidding on his own vehicle to increase the bids/activity. A dead giveaway would be if it met a reserve, and then ran into a "non-paying bidder" and got relisted. Not saying this was happening in this case - just makes you wonder, especially when there are sooo many things incorrect about the car.

Too bad - hope no one got snookered, but it sure has the indications.

Regards

WorkinProgress · « **Reply #14 on:** December 15, 2012, 06:15:31 AM »

The letter C in the axle code shows it is not a '69 Camaro rear, but a '70 Nova rear. The the '661 tranny case was not used until the '70 model year, or the late '69 production Camaros. Should have a '660 Muncie case being an early built car.

click · « **Reply #15 on:** December 15, 2012, 05:16:14 PM »

Just an FYI , the build date on my 69 RS with block # 3932388 was 10D, so a 10B could very likely be correct with the ...388 block.

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 16, 2012, 02:51:56 PM »

Quote from: click on December 15, 2012, 05:16:14 PM

Just an FYI , the build date on my 69 RS with block # 3932388 was 10D, so a 10B could very likely be correct with the ...388 block.

click, but not a z-28. There are documented z-28's with 388 block in February and march when they had a shortage in 618 blocks.

jdv69z · « **Reply #17 on:** March 04, 2013, 04:20:20 PM »

It's got a rather unique trim tag as well.

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2013, 08:33:51 PM »

Quote from: WorkinProgress on December 15, 2012, 06:15:31 AM

The letter C in the axle code shows it is not a '69 Camaro rear, but a '70 Nova rear. The the '661 tranny case was not used until the '70 model year, or the late '69 production Camaros. Should have a '660 Muncie case being an early built car.

FYI.. There's another thread concerning the use of the 'C' prefix (3 char codes) for late '69 Camaro rears as well...

lcmc · « **Reply #19 on:** March 05, 2013, 04:51:10 AM »

Car has been listed 3 times now.

MyRed67 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2013, 04:33:17 AM »

Quote from: cook_dw on December 15, 2012, 02:25:21 AM

3310 with a 993 date..

I was under the impression 3310's were aftermarket Carbs. I think it should really have a 4053.

woodsman1172 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2013, 07:18:13 AM »

Quote from: lcmc on March 05, 2013, 04:51:10 AM

Car has been listed 3 times now.

Surely a fair bit of shill bidding going on;
First auction ended December 14, 2012 - 48 bids, "sold" for $31,001
Relisted, Second auction ended January 9, 2013 - 50 bids, "sold" for $32,500
Relisted, currently had 45 bids, reached $24,100
Each time, listing states "no reserve", so why doesn't it sell? Hmm....

z28z11 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2013, 01:56:42 PM »

Quote from: woodsman1172 on March 06, 2013, 07:18:13 AM

Quote from: lcmc on March 05, 2013, 04:51:10 AM
Car has been listed 3 times now.
Surely a fair bit of shill bidding going on;
First auction ended December 14, 2012 - 48 bids, "sold" for $31,001
Relisted, Second auction ended January 9, 2013 - 50 bids, "sold" for $32,500
Relisted, currently had 45 bids, reached $24,100
Each time, listing states "no reserve", so why doesn't it sell? Hmm....

I believe you hit the nail squarely on the head. To me, a sure sign of a ghost bidder is (for example) whoever the bidder on this auction is marked 3***i with 10 auctions to his/her credit, pushing the bid up $500.00 periodically. I watched an auction not long ago that happened just that way - guy was using a proxy seller, anybody can do the same thing. After a while, it may backfire on the seller occasionally, or it hangs until some unsuspecting bidder happens on it and falls for it. I imagine scenario that happens a lot. I hope they lose their collective shirts.

IMO,
Steve

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2013, 04:42:18 PM »

If you notice the wining bidder in the last auction left good feedback to seller.

67conv6cyl · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2013, 06:01:34 PM »

Something does not seem right to me, not sure how transaction was completed and car still listed by same owner. I would not bid on car.

Paul

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Author Topic: Camaro on Ebay (Read 16594 times)

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