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DavidS

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Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« on: November 27, 2012, 02:26:25 PM »
A friend of mine has a 1967 396 SS.  I believe he has had it for about 20 years.

The exhaust was replaced with a Gardner.

Does the undercarriage/body of the car look unrestored?

Here are two youtube videos.  I have more if needed.

http://youtu.be/WwDL5PLS7hM

http://youtu.be/ofr3yvr4x7g


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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 04:55:02 PM »
Looks unrestored to me. I noticed the springs have the paint mark and no decals. The paint mark looks yellow like my 67 L35 4B LOS springs.

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2012, 12:33:49 AM »
Looks unrestored to me. I noticed the springs have the paint mark and no decals. The paint mark looks yellow like my 67 L35 4B LOS springs.
Mike

Thanks Mike!  It is a LOS car.  It has a lot of gray and black on the underbody similar to my NOR 69Z.

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 12:52:00 AM »
For sure unrestored and rust free . Very nice.  69 style straps on rear  yoke . I believe they should be u bolts

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2012, 02:29:32 AM »
I'd say definitely unrestored and from a non-rustbelt state....   

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 02:45:59 AM »
For sure unrestored and rust free . Very nice.  69 style straps on rear  yoke . I believe they should be u bolts

 The straps are correct for a TH400. I have them too on my 67 4B w/TH400.

I noticed the motor still has the old style engine mounts as well.
And the gas tank also looks like it is black which is correct for a LOS 67.

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 03:43:56 AM »
I'd say definitely unrestored and from a non-rustbelt state....  
In 1992 it was shipped from San Dimas, CA to Granby, CT.

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I have a numbers matching 1969 Z that is being restored.  The underbody has not been painted yet.  I would like to bring it to the Camaro Nationals next year.  Before starting the restoration, my car had loads of gray primer with some black areas.  I believe to restore it the way it was originally, I should put back the gray primer.  However, to do well with a judged car, it should be uniform 30% gloss black.

I have seen many original cars on this site that had a lot of black with some gray on the underbody.  However, there are other original cars that have a lot of gray with some black on the underbody.  I have been reading old Camaro Enthusiast magazines and there are low milage original cars there that have primarily gray underbodies.  I believe that since the underbodies were primered with the gray primer by hand, there are huge variations in what was done originally.  

Part of me was hoping that everyone would have mostly black and my car was a weird fluke with the gray.  Then, I would just have it painted 30% gloss black.  As it stands right now, I'm not quite sure what to do.


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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2012, 04:23:23 AM »
David, if you have pics of your car before and have worked to duplicate what you had one would think it would be a non issue. We all know there were lots of variation so put it back to what it was and don't look back. 
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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2012, 09:20:39 AM »
Is the car red or originally red?
It appears to still have overspray on the floorpan in the direction that it would have been applied to the rocker panels.
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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2012, 10:53:00 AM »
Is the car red or originally red?
It appears to still have overspray on the floorpan in the direction that it would have been applied to the rocker panels.

Yes, my friends 1967 396 SS is red.  It has never been repainted.

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2012, 10:59:14 AM »
David, if you have pics of your car before and have worked to duplicate what you had one would think it would be a non issue. We all know there were lots of variation so put it back to what it was and don't look back.  

You are right Chick.  It's a little tough because the the underside might end up looking like a big mess between the gray primer, the black, and the green overspray.  But, if that's how they were, then I'll probably go in that direction.  


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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2012, 12:53:31 PM »
Wonder why the straps are on 400 turbo cars. We never stop learning

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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2012, 02:54:29 PM »
Is that correct routing of power steering hoses??
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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2012, 08:12:57 PM »
Also, I thought BB axle torque-arms were supposed to be square and not round tubing..
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Re: Does this 67 undercarriage look unrestored?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2012, 08:20:44 PM »
Also, I thought BB axle torque-arms were supposed to be square and not round tubing..

The TH400 usage didn't get a square bar.
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