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« on: October 22, 2012, 07:46:47 AM »

 I've been restoring my brothers 67 396 car and it has the under dash 8 track. I have a pic of an orig  low milage 67  with the under dash 8 track. It has the filler panel between the ash tray and tape player. Looks like I'm going to have to make one if I can't find it somewhere. The orig pic I have of it has a camaro emblem on it. Is that correct or did some one put the emblem on it. Thanks Kerry   
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 09:33:03 AM »

1967 didn't use the emblem, but 1968 did.

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2012, 07:04:39 AM »

Thanks Ed. The pic I have of one is a 10k mile 67. I have it in my email along with a few other pics of the car. When I figure out how to get them from my email to here I'll post them . Thanks Kerry
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2012, 10:29:24 AM »

Kerry,
     Ed's info is interesting. Wonder if it could be a late 67 and 68 thing. Do you know the build date for the car in your pictures? Just wongering.  Bill
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2012, 11:10:31 AM »

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Wonder if it could be a late 67 and 68 thing.

I doubt it. The November, 1967 P&A shows P/N 3903474 only being used on the 68 Camaro with U57, as does the September, 1968 P&A, the February, 1969 P&A and the February, 1971 P&A. The 1967 AIM shows only the plate (P/N 7302757), where the 68 AIM shows the plate (P/N 7302757) AND the emblem (P/N 3903474).

There's one P&A from October, 1966 that shows the 3903474 being used on the 67 Camaro, but it states it's for the glove box door, and since the 67 glove box door didn't come with an emblem, it's incorrect. Interesting enough, it says that part number 3903474 is for the 67 Camaro glove box door "exc. 350, R.S.", but it has another number (3903475) that states it's for the glove box door "w/R.S. (exc. 350)". Looks like they were originally going to add an emblem to the glove box door in 67 but changed their minds!

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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2012, 04:24:23 PM »

Bill its an  06B. I believe the emblem was  always on the car . Its an untouched car
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2012, 04:29:32 PM »

Kerry, post a picture of the plate and the emblem.

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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2012, 05:23:13 PM »

Here are the pics. I hope
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2012, 05:25:47 PM »

Don't know why there are four pics. Shoud be two . At least they are posted so you can see
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2012, 06:16:29 PM »

Hard to tell from the pictures (I need a better "straight on" shot), but it appears that's a 68 AM/FM and Multiplex. Can you get a better picture of the radio and the Multiplex?

(I also edited your post and removed the duplicate pictures.)

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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2012, 06:51:15 PM »

Sorry Ed these are the only pics I have of the int. We don't know where the car is any more. This car was owned by Dave Minor and he passed away.  This is a 10k mile L78 There is a chance that Zedder ( Mark Caine) may have some more pics.  This car is coded on the cowl tag for the 8 track . Does the 68 aim that same emb. because thats a 67 style  script like is on the fenders only smaller.  Why would it be on a 68 when there is already a camaro emblem on the glove box door in writing, thanks Kerry
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2012, 07:52:58 PM »

Sorry, can't help you on the "why" question Kerry. "Why" did Chevrolet do a lot of things we don't understand!!

I'll see if Mark can shed any light on this. The car in question is a very late 06B, so they "may" have used a 68 part by then. The option is just too rare to get a lot of data points on.

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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2012, 11:55:06 PM »

I believe Daniel looked at that car too and probably has pics. How many original cars with U57 are there to research - not many....
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 09:18:35 AM »

Took me some time  but I found one of these filler panels . I feel very lucky to have found it
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2012, 11:30:23 AM »

Kerry how you come up with these rare parts it's amazing. Again that piece is ultra rare congrats!!

I just finished hooking up the 8 track in the first car I bought in 1977 a 69 Z. When I originally purchased the car it had an am/fm mono radio with 4 speakers and a hideous looking Craig 8 track 3124 mounted on the console lid like the orig GM. The factory hole for the wiring was there,  and the two securing screws along with the convector  mounted on the steering column. Even back then I knew it was an original 8 track car. In 1979 I removed the Craig 8 track replaced the console lid and installed a blue light stereo.

Fast Fast forward 2010 I purchased this car back which I sold in 1983(got married and bought our first home). Once I knew I was purchasing the car back I searched craiglist and found a correct 8 track head with bracket but no wiring. Well I pieced it back (made up a 605 interconnect cable and spliced the 16 wire cable with connector) and last night installed it in the console and was playing Grand Funk Railroad. Memories of the high fidelity 8 track came to life. Whats interesting is that I own four cars with factory ordered 8 tracks and they all work.  Grin  I may need to lubricate and clean the capstan/ bearing any suggestion on lubricants.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 03:06:18 PM »

Paceme,
I would also think about demagnatizing/degaussing the head on all those units. Helping to get things back in line and removing magnetic fields that collect along the path of the tape. Works for reel to reel and casette also. I remember we were working on a song to sell to Ricky Skaggs. I listened to the recording on the reel to reel and then used the unit, and felt it sounded better to me. So we mixed it all final and sent it out to be mastered.
 
The unit has plastic protectors on the tabs and is 2 or 3 inches long. So you can reach inside and keep from scratching the block and heads. You hold it right up near the head, push the botton, and slowly pull it out and begin turning it in a circular motion. Tight little cirlses while leaving the unit, counterclock wise. Little 1/4inch circles to start. increasing the size of the circles until it is 3 feet away and the circle is 2 feet in diameter. Then turn it backwards and release the button.

I don't know where mine is right now. SO MUCH music stuff. Now that many things are in storage, it might take a while. LMK if ya want me to look for it. I can send it out to ya and then you can send it back after use. Or buy yourself a new one. Either way... Just a suggestion......Danny
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 03:53:41 PM »

Here it is installed
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2012, 04:00:01 PM »

Kerry, I've never owned a car with the 8 track, but it appears the shifter would come AWFUL close to the head when you're in 1st and 3rd (mabye reverse too). It may even hit? Is that correct?

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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2012, 07:05:43 PM »

No ed its not close . Here are a couple pics . The first pic  one is in reverse and the second  pic is in 1st.
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2012, 07:07:16 PM »

Thanks Kerry.

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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 07:08:55 PM »

On this set up the shifter needs to be in neutral to get the tape all the way out
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 07:17:20 PM »

Nice sunny day in the Camaro out on the open highway with the Fab 4 coming from the speakers..........man, it doesn't get much better than that!      Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2012, 11:29:49 PM »

Nice sunny day in the Camaro out on the open highway with the Fab 4 coming from the speakers..........man, it doesn't get much better than that!      Cheesy

I think the distortion level produced by the  8 track is actually soothing to the ear and very hard to replicate in this exact world of digital music. Actually you could make a 8 track tape sound very different just by jamming the tape cartridge with a match book in different locations.  All kidding aside I've been adjusting& cleaning mine and it sounds pretty darn good now.
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2012, 11:58:21 PM »

That metal piece couldn't be easy to find. Without context, it's just a piece of sheetmetal!
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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2012, 06:01:16 PM »

plumL78,
Thanks for sharing the pics!  Man that takes me back!  I've still got my In-A-Gadda-De-Vida tape.  Wish I had the 8 track.
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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2012, 08:22:47 PM »

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Thanks for sharing the pics!  Man that takes me back!  I've still got my In-A-Gadda-De-Vida tape.  Wish I had the 8 track.


I think the original title for that song was "In the garden of Eden". And in the traslation of it all over the phone it was written down wrong. I still have about 50 8-tracks. Mine, My buddys, and his Sister's. And a nice player in great shape for a home stereo. Good Times eh!!... Danny
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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2012, 12:02:12 AM »

I knew it was something like that. Looked it up and according to the band: After then-lead singer Doug Ingle drank a bunch of wine, he slurred the words into "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida". Drummer Ron Bushy thought it was catchy and wrote it down that way.....
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2012, 09:18:36 PM »

I heard basically the same story from Erik Brann...but it wasn't wine!
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 04:16:48 PM »

I picked up a set of kick panel speaker grills. The question I have is on the ones I bought. They are the same thickness all the way around it. I also have a 69Z with the 8 track option and those speaker grills are thinner on one side. They were on my Z when I bought it and the 8 track was with the car too.  So I just figured they were orig to the car. I took them off my Z just to get everything hooked up in my brothers car until I got a set.  The set I got is the same size all the way around. Its not a big deal but I'd like to know whats correct. You should be able to see the difference in the pics. I took , Thanks Kerry
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 11:27:44 PM »

Kerry,


I have the tapered on two of my cars, and that is what I have seen on other original cars. I will check my real early car (which has the two piece kick panels) and verify the grill configuration.

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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2012, 12:18:13 AM »

I believe the flat ones are Impala etc ?
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« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2012, 09:39:44 AM »

I'll trim them down so they look like my other ones
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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 11:29:07 AM »

Very cool indeed, Paceme!  Looking at that 67 8-track pic, I don't believe the unit is mounted correctly. How do you get the cartridge in the player? It's looks like that bracket is used only for column shift applications
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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2012, 07:28:28 PM »

It all fits and only goes on one way. Tape won't come out if the shifter is in 1st or 3rd
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