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 on: July 24, 2014, 07:16:22 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by z28z11
One shot you might try. Depending on your state, your DMV might have saved copies of your dealer invoice, title copies and even the MSO if your car was sold new in your state. I was fortunate to have both my '69 Z and '68 Z's complete history, including dealer invoices and MSO's copied by the state, and microfiched. Cost to copy and give to me - $5.00 for the '69, $15.00 for the '68 (years later). The bad side - TN stopped doing this several years back due to "lack of funding for personnel overtime". Stinks.

You can always try it - might get lucky. If you do, backtrack the previous owners and/or dealerships involved. You never know - takes a lot of work, but it could really pay off in the long run -

Regards, and good luck. Keep us informed -

 on: July 24, 2014, 06:45:01 PM 
Started by BillOhio - Last post by cook_dw
Should have a pat number on it next to the Adell.  Should be say Adell Detroit Pat No 172.414

 on: July 24, 2014, 06:41:27 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by 69pace
At this point in time the Chevrolet build records are presumed destroyed so unless your vehicle was exported to Canada there are no official records besides the rare dealership cache and of course the original owners copies. SO if you are lucky to have the POP and dealer invoice your all set.

My Z11 is two weeks earlier 03B And your vin sequence is in line for the production date. Body numbers can be misleading since the number is generated by the central office based on order, and may take weeks for the body number to be released based on options and availability. 

What shape is she in? Have you posted over at Team Camaro?

 on: July 24, 2014, 06:12:07 PM 
Started by dannystarr - Last post by dannystarr
Yes Jimmy, this is just soap stone. And then I lightly blow and take my finger and get rid of the excess. Then I edit the picture extensively of course to get that dark surface look. That really makes the numbers stand out.
 OK, I am done for now, no more pictures... Danny

 on: July 24, 2014, 05:20:53 PM 
Started by BillOhio - Last post by BillOhio
I had a friend give me a set of what he believed to be door edge guards off a camaro. He thought they were gm pieces. Stamped on them is Adell novi mi. Is this right?

 on: July 24, 2014, 04:47:03 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by jjonesls1
Thanks! A/C box is intact. Is there no way to find the original build info it it's not with the car? I'd just have to get lucky and find it on the car?

 on: July 24, 2014, 04:35:49 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by z28z11
BTW, the tag looks O.K, with the exception of the masked paint line on the cowl ledge. I assume the car has been painted, at least in the firewall/underhood area. A/C box intact, or removed ?

VIN looks unmolested, plus all the numbers line up with mine. The only other things you can't know for sure are the options, but at least the production timing of the car, TT, and VIN line up fairly well. The chances of someone finding a close TT and installing on this close VIN'd car are pretty remote IMO.

Regards - 

 on: July 24, 2014, 04:18:09 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by z28z11
It should look like this - 600+ cars ahead of mine, 973 from the body tag. My car was built 3/26, shipped to Texas. 350/350, PS,PT,PDB,A/C car. Probably same day, or a day off. Not bad -

Close enough ? I thought so -

Use Light Image Resizer software, free download. Save it as a jpeg, downsize to 800X600, or 600X480, and you can transfer them all day.

 on: July 24, 2014, 04:08:51 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by jjonesls1
Thanks for all of the help so far! I've got pictures of the vin and trim tags, but not the other locations. I don't have access to the hiddne vin locations at the moment, so hopefully that is enough to get us started.

I'm struggling with attachment sizes, giving it another shot

 on: July 24, 2014, 03:51:56 PM 
Started by jjonesls1 - Last post by 6667ss138
There are some pace car experts on here so you came to the right place. I'm sure they will chime in and help you. They will want pictures of the Cowl tag and anything else that you can show like engine pad stamp, trans and rear end numbers. The information you have listed points to a true Z/11 pace car but again without pictures they are only numbers. Also, I'm pretty sure you won't find a build sheet on a Norwood built car and without some of the original factory docs such as Protecto Plate, original owners info etc I don't think you will be able to find the information you are seeking. There is no original GM source out there to retrieve factory docs like the GTO's for example. You can find out the original GM shipper and build date info from the NCRS. Check out the link below. I used to own a Z/11. They are one of my favorites. And as Darrell says, Welcome!

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