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Originality / Re: Ignition Coil Bracket Finish
« Last post by Mike S on December 10, 2016, 01:23:31 PM »
 Hi Buzz,

    Sure, feel free to do so.

Decoding/Numbers / Re: Muncie metal trim tag identification
« Last post by dutch on December 10, 2016, 01:13:12 PM »
Bryon, Thanks for your looking..  Its certainly not a life threatening deal, but it would be something that would be nice to add and again I appreciate your effort...
Chick - the list you posted and the picture of yours shows the right one I need I guess from everything I've read now and seen - again you were so very fortunate in having such an original car right from the outset!

Maintenance / Re: 69 RF brake lock up?
« Last post by Rufcar on December 10, 2016, 12:52:32 PM »
Yes I read Johns article and several more. Like I stated I inherited this problem and trying to make it right. The only item I can see that is not original type equipment is the metering valve. In all the photos, manuals and parts books I have read there are 3 choices, The 71-77 Pro valve the 69 pro valve and the 67-68 valve Some call them Pro. valves others metering. Most appear to use the 68 or 69 valve. I believe since my car was one of the first hundred made in CA. it had the 68 valve, then later was changed to the 69 valve. My car was someone's dragster for many years and thus many changes took place.  FYI Im 67 so I agree with you!
I blew up Johns pic and found the needed valve on line and ordered it complete with bracket and rubber boot. It will be here next week Ill replumb and report back. Tkx Jim
Originality / Re: Service Engines (CE coded)
« Last post by ZLP955 on December 10, 2016, 12:22:54 PM »
From another thread here, a member sent me the pictures below, of a CE block with the following dates:
Pad Stamp: CE9A24283
Casting Number: 3932386
Casting Date: J 12 8

This was very interesting for me, because the assembly stamp is only 5 numbers earlier than a CE block that I have, with the following numbers:
Assembly Stamp: CE9A24288
Casting Number: 3956618
Casting Date: A 9 9

So comparing the numbers, there is approximately 3 months between casting dates (October 12, 1968 to January 9, 1969), yet the Flint assembly sequence numbers stamped on the pads are only 5 units apart.
Previous thread contributors have confirmed they have seen CE9, CE9A, CE9B and CE9C prefixes for Flint V8 assembly. Based on the block of sequential numbers allocated to that plant, this equates to over 90,000 CE blocks for the 1969 model year. With this number of service blocks, there can't have actually been a 3-month gap between 5 sequential units being machined and assembled. One possibility is that the 618 block was machined shortly after casting and the 386 casting remained on the rack until January of '69 before it was pulled out and machined just prior to the 618, but another possibility is that a quantity of raw castings was routinely set aside for CE applications, and perhaps both of these pictured were assembled some time after casting.
It would be great to get some more data points if anyone else has another block with a reasonably close assembly number.
General Discussion / Re: New member from NJ
« Last post by ZLP955 on December 10, 2016, 06:08:09 AM »
Thanks for sending the pictures. It's J 12 8, so October 12 1968. I'll add the data to the CE block thread shortly.
Garage Talk / My 68 recently was in Muscle Car Review
« Last post by camaroboy68ss on December 10, 2016, 05:39:31 AM »
About an issue or two ago. Cover had the class of 71 (with the plum crazy 71 cuda), I saw my 68 made the readers rides section of the magazine. I wrote in what feels like forever ago. I was really surprised to see in print. First big publication, I have ever had printed on one of my cars. My grandfather has had some magazine articles done with his rods and customs.
Originality / Re: Ignition Coil Bracket Finish
« Last post by Buzz1967 on December 10, 2016, 05:15:04 AM »
I'm sure glad I started this thread. I'm learning a LOT about metal and phosphate.

Mike, would it be alright to send you a P/M?
Garage Talk / Re: 1968 Camaro SS 396
« Last post by camaroboy68ss on December 10, 2016, 05:10:07 AM »
man seeing houndstooth in a 68 gets me to want to finally bite the bullet and swap over when I install my fold down rear. love it.
Garage Talk / Re: This is the story of my first car.
« Last post by camaroboy68ss on December 10, 2016, 05:08:35 AM »
super awesome story! I can relate since my 68 was my first car at 8 and restored over the next 7 years with my grandfather. Wish we used the paint stripper. My grandpa handed me a long board and some sandpaper and pointed to the door. lol.
General Discussion / Re: New member from NJ
« Last post by 69Z28-RS on December 10, 2016, 04:52:31 AM »
I know that general thinking is that CE blocks were only warranty units but I really think that in the 70,s I remember people buying CE engines at Carpenter Cheverolet in Durham,NC and a dealer in Hillsborough NC. I had and it is still around a 67 Chevelle with a CE L78. I bought it in 72 and knew the original owner who said it was not an L78 when new. I also knew a guy who had a real L78 Nova who blew the engine and bought a L78 short block and I am 95% sure it was stamped CE. If not what was an over the counter engine stamped?

I've had OTC blocks that had no stamp at all...  but that could have been for a 'bare block'?  I can't say for certain how they were stamped, but it's possible (even likely) that they weren't stamped at all; just ID'ed with a PN.

Chevy sold OTC blocks in several configurations:  1) bare block, 2) 'fitted' block (block with pistons), 3) Short block, and 4) long block (with heads)...  The ones I've seen in Chevrolet parts departments all had 'wired tags' with a PN...  and the PN identifies what the engine block is...
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