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Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Smokey Yunick
« Last post by camaroboy68ss on January 16, 2017, 08:11:58 PM »
That is a great picture showing the grille and headlight doors being pushed forward to get rid of the recessed area.
Decoding/Numbers / 1969 Z28 Trim Tag - Real?
« Last post by Speedracer8 on January 16, 2017, 07:25:45 PM »
Can anyone help me identify this as a real or reproduction trim tag?  VIN range is N575XXX on this car and best I can tell that range matches this body build.  Partial VIN is stamped on the rough casting near the oil filter, which I think also makes sense for this build.  V1219DZ stamped on the pad.  No further information at this time.

Thanks for the help!
General Discussion / Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Last post by william on January 16, 2017, 06:47:15 PM »

A few of the ZL1s the list shows as having an M22 do not have paperwork and were restored starting with nothing more than a body. There are 7 for sure.
General Discussion / Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Last post by VINCE Z28 on January 16, 2017, 05:12:44 PM »
11 of the 69 ZL1's  came with the M22 Trans. Super car Registry.
General Discussion / Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Last post by william on January 16, 2017, 03:17:09 PM »
Good question.

Like most options, ECLs differ based on other equipment. There are no RPO ECLs specific to COPO 9560 & 9561. When they did the query looking for M22 ECLs specific to BB it picked up all of them including COPOs. When the report was summarized it was assumed all 867 were for L78s.

But when they queried for L78 ECLs could it have picked up COPOs? As I stated L78 is always listed on Canadian COPO docs. There is one out there at this time:

As usual L78 is listed along with all the other equipment. But there are no ECLs shown. Maybe 20 years ago when you requested build info on a Canadian delivered car they just copied the page your VIN was on along with 18-20 others. I have a few of these and looked up the COPOs. All of the COPOs I can read also list L78AA5 along with 9560 or 9561.

If they did the ECL query using the same info from the shipping reports I have to say there is a possibility the 4,889 L78 build total included COPOs.
General Discussion / Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Last post by hihorse on January 16, 2017, 01:23:59 PM »
So 4889 units for RPO L78 includes COPO?
Decoding/Numbers / Re: Water Pump Bypass fitting..
« Last post by dutch on January 16, 2017, 11:09:17 AM »
Thanks for the replies - the car is stored for the Winter - but this is on my 'to do' list when and if it ever stops snowing and we get to see some grass (maybe early to mid May the way it looks now) but I will attempt the removal and go from there - and yes it is still and will be one the car when I do attempt it..
Anyone have an idea of who sells the best reproduction bypass fitting for an early 1968 model 302 engine.. I think there were two styles - one for 1967 models more of a hexagon shape body if I recall, and one for 1968's more squared off - but like many other bits on my car there was probably a carryover deal and maybe mine again falls into the situation where some things deemed '67 model year ended up on some of the earlier '68 model cars..
Block was assembly stamped in late Dec '67 and cast in early Dec so would it be possible that one or the other could or should have been found on it?
Thanks again - Randy 
General Discussion / Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Last post by william on January 16, 2017, 02:20:52 AM »
Problem with M20 is it includes Saginaw 4-speeds. I have paperwork from a local dealer; 6 of the 98 Camaros were non-HP Saginaw M20 4-speeds. Can't accurately estimate the M20 Muncie/Saginaw split because there are no figures for the 21,273 SS350s and LM1s. Several SS350s in the paper work list no trans [std HD 3-speed] some 4-speed, some TH350. Powerglide was also an option. The earliest power team chart shows the LM1 receiving the Saginaw [2.54 1st] but another shows Muncie [2.52 1st]. The LM1 was odd in that there was no standard trans; an optional trans had to be ordered. The MC1 HD 3-speed was only optional on the LM1, 3,079 produced leaving 7,327 that could have had any of 3 other transmissions.

No meaningful way to swag all that.
General Discussion / Re: 68 ss ID
« Last post by bertfam on January 16, 2017, 01:59:31 AM »
This car is missing the vacuum reservoir and relay valve, but from the picture it appears to have the vacuum lines and the washer bottle in the correct location, so I'd say it probably is an RS. Check to see where the vacuum lines exit the firewall.

General Discussion / Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Last post by fsc66 on January 16, 2017, 12:53:35 AM »
Agreed makes no sense, there is no way that many M21's were produced. End of Sept shows a little over 15,000 with breakdowns of: Z28, L34 and L78 as you indicated. Total 4-spd production for M20, M21 and M22 through end of sept was slightly over 50K.

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