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Decoding/Numbers / Re: A Little help on this '68
« Last post by jude_champ on Today at 06:15:40 PM »
Thank you Ed.  I'll check out the info you left to see if the dealership is still around. 

124378L342189

Thanks again.

Jude
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Comments on this Z-11 on Ebay
« Last post by Stingr69 on Today at 06:14:04 PM »
Where is the clock that should be there?
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Decoding/Numbers / Re: A Little help on this '68
« Last post by bertfam on Today at 04:59:20 PM »
Welcome to the site, but I have bad news for your friend. Chevrolet didn't keep these records UNLESS the car happened to be originally sold in Canada. The only thing we have is the ability to (sometimes) find out which dealer the car was shipped to. Click HERE for more info.

Even if you DO find out the original dealer, the chances that they're still around, or still have the old records, is slim at best, but some have gotten lucky, so give it a try.

Also, we have a very large database of cars, so post the VIN and I can see if we have any history on it.

Good luck
Ed

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Decoding/Numbers / A Little help on this '68
« Last post by jude_champ on Today at 01:49:46 PM »
Howdy.  Please excuse my ignorance in advance.  I have a friend from church who purchased a '68 a few years back while attending a car show.  The car was sold to him as an RS/SS and from the street the car looks legit.  Unfortunately he didn't do any research on the car, except what was supplied him by the owner at the time.  The folder of records and receipts is impressive but started with the 2nd owner of the car in roughly '84. 

He is wanting to sell the car. From what i've researched here, and other places, the only accurate way to determine if the car is a true SS car in '68 is with the original block and unfortunately he no longer has that in the car.  I'm guessing that it was taken out by the first or second owner. 

Please don't shoot me here, but I own a 68 Shelby and with Shelby's you can do a Marti Report and there is a record of the vin numbers that go with Shelby cars.  Did GM supply that info to someone to verify cars by the VIN?

I understand that buying the car without verification wasn't ideal but he is where he is.  I have some experience in researching cars and their histories so he asked me to help him with this project.  Thanks for sharing your expertise with an owner of "another" car, lol.  Just for the record I also have an F-body car. :D
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General Discussion / Re: Larry Shinoda's Birthday
« Last post by 68camaroz28 on Today at 10:45:11 AM »
A friend of mine and I got to meet and talk with Larry Shinoda at a big fancy dinner put on by Chevrolet when they were the featured marque for the 1987 Monterey Historic Races. He was by himself but was very gracious and spent a good amount of time talking with us. He was humble but also very proud of the work that he had done, and rightfully so. We really enjoyed our visit with him.
Those are conversations we wish we had a recording. Good memories to have Jon.
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Restoration / Re: Body Mount Tape - Width
« Last post by 68camaroz28 on Today at 10:40:34 AM »
How do you know that Chick? Is there a thread on the subject ?
Do I need a thread? Have u ever seen that on a survivor as I have not and looked at these white being sold on eBay years ago and determined the white being added clearly showed service replacement but again orientation would hide that aspect. My belief is it was added as the part # was used for other applications but never went any further investigation. Simple fix and only suggestion.

Chick, just wanting to understand the source of your information, assuming perhaps you were referencing a CRG thread or other notable work on the subject as there is nothing published by CRG on subframe cushion markings that I could locate. Most of the original / survivor cushions I have seen were deteriorated to the point where I could not reliably determine what markings they came with originally. Even if I could my sample size was not large enough to be authoritative. Only a couple of the NOS cushions I installed have the WHITE manufacturers mark but they do include the embossed PN#. Could this be a unique practice by a this cushion supplier? As for judging standards I've not heard of anyone receiving a deduction for using GM service replacement cushions which I assume are routinely used as the originals aren't restorable and mostly deform, collapse and sometimes crack after decades of exposure and compression.   

Just my thoughts Lloyd and yes one has to use service replacements but as you know some service replacements fit the bill and others changed looks and do not. Larry Christensen could best answer for the 5000 pt judging but I will stick my neck out and say with the white showing there would be some small deduction. Orient and no deduction for sure, which was my point. No worries!
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General Discussion / Re: Larry Shinoda's Birthday
« Last post by Jon Mello on Today at 02:55:00 AM »
A friend of mine and I got to meet and talk with Larry Shinoda at a big fancy dinner put on by Chevrolet when they were the featured marque for the 1987 Monterey Historic Races. He was by himself but was very gracious and spent a good amount of time talking with us. He was humble but also very proud of the work that he had done, and rightfully so. We really enjoyed our visit with him.
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Also in attendance at Darlington Raceway was the Charlotte Motor Speedway 1968 Camaro RS/SS convertible pace car that would be used at the 1968 World 600 in just a few short weeks.  It must have been at Darlington in a backup/promotional role.

This Camaro clearly has "CHARLOTTE" & "WORLD 600" written on the passenger side door and "MOTOR SPEEDWAY" written on passenger side front fender.

In the footage shown in the Glory Days television show the Charlotte pace car is shown driving into pit lane right behind a interview being conducted after the conclusion of the race.
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Souvenir program cover and ticket stub pictures are from worthpoint.com
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A white 1968 Camaro RS/SS 396 convertible was used as the pace car for the Rebel 400 NASCAR Grand National event held at Darlington Raceway in Darlington, South Carolina on Saturday, May 11, 1968.  David Pearson won the race in his 1968 Holman-Moody Ford Torino.

While it is too hard to tell definitively, it looks like it probably says "CAMARO" & "OFFICIAL PACE CAR" on the door and possibly "DARLINGTON RACEWAY" on the front fender.  If it's like several of the other NASCAR Camaro pace cars then it might say "REBEL 400" and/or "MAY 11th" on the rear quarter panels.

I took pictures of the Camaro pace car while watching the television show Glory Road on NBC Sports Network.  This show featured vintage footage of the race.

The first two pictures show the car sitting at the end of pit lane waiting to go into action during a caution period.
The last two pictures show the Camaro going back to it's end of pit lane position after the conclusion of a caution period.  Notice that the drivers side brake light bulb seems to be not working.   
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