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Originality / Re: Unique Radio/Stereo Combination for 69’ Camaro
« on: December 10, 2023, 03:31:33 PM »
Sounds like AM radio with 8 track player, which would have been mounted on the console. This is the same setup I have. Here is a wiring diagram which may answer your questions.

Console-mounted 8-track players and multiplex stereo players in 1968 and 1969 Camaros were for cars with RPO C60 factory air conditioning systems (Four Seasons) because the AC duct work under the dash on the passenger side obstructed mounting either the 8-track player or multiplex there.

To rephrase slightly for clarification. U57 Console mounted 8 track tape players were used with console cars, regardless of AC. From the sales album for U57 in the revision guide, "Includes 4 speakers. Console required when air conditioning is ordered." So if you order C60 and U57, you also had to order D55 console.

And an interesting side note. In the original section of the sales manual, "Includes 4 speakers. Not available when electric clock is ordered. Console is required when air conditioning is ordered." I don't know how U35 Electric Clock would affect a tape player. But I guess that may be why they removed that in the revision.

Originality / Re: Unique Radio/Stereo Combination for 69’ Camaro
« on: October 18, 2023, 02:11:06 PM »
Yes, I'm sorry I should have said AM or AM/FM. U63 and U69 both had the front center speaker. If the stereo tape player U57 or the stereo multiplex U79 was ordered, no  front center speaker was installed. My apologies, I sometimes forget the U69 FM non-stereo option, which was actually fairly common. I only had an AM radio. Also AM radio is evidenced by a rear telescoping manual antenna, the rear antenna option could not be ordered with the FM radio. I believe AM and FM both had the same straps and capacitors, but I could be mistaken. I'm sure its all in the AIM. The original rear antenna on my car, and the original AM radio still installed, is how I knew the rear spoiler was added. It was an original rear spoiler, but it could have been added by the dealer or from another car at any time after the factory.

Originality / Re: Unique Radio/Stereo Combination for 69’ Camaro
« on: October 16, 2023, 02:17:18 PM »
Sounds like AM radio with 8 track player, which would have been mounted on the console. This is the same setup I have. Here is a wiring diagram which may answer your questions.

Perfectly clear now!

I did read that Joe, hence my question. My POP has no suffix, and the production is after 10/21/68.

       1969 Muncie 4-speed only:
          A = M20
          B = M21     Use of the Muncie type suffix
          C = M22     began with 21 Oct 68 production.

Decoding/Numbers / C75 on 69 POP decoder?
« on: May 07, 2023, 01:36:53 PM »
Sorry I can't figure out what C75 is on the 69 POP decoder in the e position of POP value 3. Its in the same postion as C60, so it would be either air conditioning or C75?
Thanks - I'm just curious. I have a 1133_ no value for e.

I was checking the codes again on my POP. Feels like I keep forgetting details. I have a P9R31 without a muncie suffix code. Very minor detail on the decoding page, but it states the suffix begins with 10/21/68 production.
And thank you for the fantastic amount of information available, I don't know what I woud do without having this resource.

Originality / Re: engine bright accent
« on: January 19, 2023, 07:10:04 PM »
Ah great, a freebie.

Originality / Re: engine bright accent
« on: January 15, 2023, 05:22:11 PM »
The very well written LM1 report (thank you Kurt), shows a picture of the chrome air cleaner cover on the LM1. According to the sales manual, this was not an included accent for that V8.

General Discussion / 3951207 cartridge unit-stereo tape player 8 track
« on: October 16, 2022, 07:51:35 PM »
Part number 3951207 shipped in a box with PC8S-536 stamped on the side. Clamshell style package RCA cartridge, Music of the USA Vol. II starring Lorne Greene. Assembly manual page 15 C2 Miscellaneous Shipping List for RPO U57. Made in 68 and provided only for the 69 model year.
Pictured, original package and an open example of the 8 track itself.

General Discussion / Chevrolet Sports Dept keychain Noland WVa.
« on: September 21, 2022, 09:05:48 PM »
Pretty cool key chain if this was your dealership. It’s on eBay 9/21/22

Originality / Re: Original colors of 1st gen Camaros
« on: August 26, 2022, 03:24:13 PM »
That's a fantastic reference. I always wondered about garnet across other cars.|Camaro|Garnet%20Red

Originality / Re: 1969 Camaro dealer accessories - tachometer
« on: August 08, 2022, 03:48:21 PM »
I miss this forum. I lost my fever after waiting so long while mine was lost in the paint shop. Message me if you need anything, I think my email is visible.

Originality / Re: Dealer Over the Counter Tachometer late 60’s
« on: August 08, 2022, 03:26:33 PM »
Nice work David. I really dug into this many years ago, and I don't remember now if I told the story of removing this from my dash and throwing it away when I bought this camaro. Years later stumbling across a picture of this dealer tach and realizing the mistake I made. Holes were still in the dash, soI bought a few of these and pieced a new one together. I even bought wire to rebuild the wiring in the same colors as the original setup. Here's mine.

Restoration / Re: Anyone with Multiplex for a 69, please help...
« on: March 24, 2021, 07:58:20 PM »
I don't know much about the multiplex setup, but I've seen pictures which show a round pin connector. I actually have one of these either male or female,I don't know why I collected it. But I never needed it. Anyway, maybe these pics help you.

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