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General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:34:04 PM »
Mike from what I am told the online DB cannot be counted on for accuracy since anyone can put entries in there. So I can see why they wouldn't correct off of that. My issue was that one of the admins from the Corvette side was able to find record of my zone and dealer number but the Camaro side will not correct the report.

Gary I agree that this can be a very helpful tool also and that it should not be terminated. I like you am looking for confirmation of what I have been told by the original owner. All records that anyone has found points to the correct dealer being Ned Gates Chevrolet.

General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: January 08, 2018, 02:28:18 PM »
Guys, the information is coming from GENERAL MOTORS records, not the NCRS. The NCRS is merely performing the service. If the information on the Shipping Data Report is incorrect, blame GM, not NCRS. And it's not the NCRS job to "correct" GM documentation. To the contrary, they have no ability to do that. They can only go by what's on the microfiche.


I agree Ed that records did come from GM. What is frustrating though is that I am receiving different answers depending on who I talk to over there. I have been told by one person that the dealer in question did exist and that they have a record of it. Talking to another person their record isn't enough to correct the shipping report.

General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: January 03, 2018, 05:04:34 PM »
Shot me over your e-mail and I'll send you some cool articles about the Transistions between the 2 dealerships.


Thanks Paul I received the clippings you sent over. I was speak with Bob Demmel over at NCRS and he was able to find Ned Gates Chevrolet in his records from 1972 as Zone 45 Dealer 134. I have contacted Marylin who handles the Camaro look ups to see if she can correct my shipping report. I am wondering however if the Corvette and Camaro groups don't use the same records. To me that wouldn't make sense but who knows.

General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: December 29, 2017, 06:26:11 PM »
Don't have any copies of paperwork just have 2 separate listings for them at the correct address and the zone and code you already have.


Thanks Paul. Doing some research it looks like it was name Twin Cities Chevrolet prior to being purchased by Ned Gates around May 1968. Could it be possible that the deal number stayed the same after the purchase?

Originality / Re: 1968 Z/28 distributors 1111266 to 1111467
« on: August 29, 2017, 05:11:13 PM »
05C build Dist 467 8E3
Thank you! Can you add when your engine was built since that is when distributor was added?
Sorry I cannot since it is not the original engine in the car.

Originality / Re: 1968 Z/28 distributors 1111266 to 1111467
« on: August 15, 2017, 03:25:15 PM »
05C build Dist 467 8E3

Original Cars and Details / Re: 68 Z28 Survivor - Lemans Blue -
« on: August 13, 2017, 01:57:21 PM »
Amazing car. I will be following this while working on mine. Must've been a week long run on Lemans Blue Z's. Mine was produced the same week.

General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: September 08, 2016, 05:58:51 PM »
Thank you Paul. Any help would be appreciated.

General Discussion / Re: Dealer number
« on: September 08, 2016, 12:38:00 PM »
According to NCRS the online database is not official and anyone can upload information into it. That is why even though the database says that I am correct they still will not use it to correct my shipping report. 

General Discussion / Dealer number
« on: September 05, 2016, 01:32:50 PM »
I am wondering if anyone would have a document for Zone 45 Dealer 134 Ned Gates Chevrolet in Benton Harbor, MI. I received my NCRS shipping report for my 68 z/28 and NCRS has " Believed to have been shipped to National Car rental in Kansas City, MO." I just spoke with Mark at NCRS and he said that if I can find proof that Ned Gates Chevrolet was zone 45 dealer 134 that they could correct the report and also update their records.

Research Topics & Reports / Re: First Gen Camaro radiator dates
« on: August 30, 2016, 12:19:25 PM »
'68 Z NOR 05C  Rad code IH, OD  Date E  Rad Tag UH

Originality / Re: Few questions..
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:17:16 PM »
thought it might be some sort or vin for the car my bad...

Originality / Re: Few questions..
« on: October 10, 2015, 01:28:07 PM »
This is what I found stamped on the transmission. P0404 date code. Also the main case number is 3885010, tail housing number is 3857584, and the side cover is 3884685. There is also a tag on the transmission with the numbers 3890534 on it?

The block that I was looking at is no longer on CL so I cannot post pictures of the stampings.

Originality / Few questions..
« on: October 08, 2015, 03:19:36 AM »
I have an M20 that does not seem to have any VIN stampings on it anywhere. Could this have been a factory replacement transmission?

Also, I have what was always told to me as a 1968 Z28. The original block is gone but from the parts that I do still have (heads, carb, intake, distributor, connecting rods, and pistons) they all seem to be specific to the 302. When I look for a block to rebuild the engine should I look for an MO stamped block (one currently on CL for $1k) or just go with a non MO stamped block?

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