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Original Cars and Details / Re: Amazing 69 Z/28 Survivor

« on: December 23, 2015, 03:22:45 AM »

Notice that the inner part of the stripe on the cowl does not follow the contour of the sunken area. It extends back from that about 1/4" or so. Most Z's I've seen are masked this way on the cowl panel but if people don't have an original example to go by, they typically follow the contour line.

The original stripes are still present on my cowl and they are done in a similar fashion however not as pronounced as that one.  My main stripe measures about 1/8" back from the contour.  12D Norwood car.

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Maintenance / Re: Power steering bracket problem

« on: December 22, 2015, 11:16:22 PM »

Mine came in and from what I see with the kit as far as brackets go,  these are the same brackets used in millions of small block chevy power steering applications from 69 and up into the early 70's, nothing special about them.
  I still have a complete OEM 72 sbc bracket setup stashed away I'll drag out and compare with.

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 22, 2015, 11:00:41 PM »

It probably is Austin, I run across that fairly often painting these cars.  A lot of colors are the same or extremely similar, just the different brand of GM cars give them their own catchy name.
  For example the Frost Green on my Z is identical to the naked eye in all aspects to the same color that Pontiac used in 1969 called Limelight.
  Although I never bothered to research it I could look at paint chips and mix formulas and confirm it.

Another example and I'll use a favorite here, Hugger Orange looks shockingly similar to Pontiac Carousel Red doesn't it? 

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Maintenance / Re: Power steering bracket problem

« on: December 22, 2015, 12:50:39 PM »

In the link you provided, Heartbeat claims what you ordered to be original used OEM brackets that may need cleaning and painting before installation.  You're saying they are repo??

I ordered a complete power steering conversion kit from Heartbeat that will arrive today.
This one... http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/store/product/20386/Camaro-Power-steering-kit-307-327-350-1969   which I believe will in fact be reproduction brackets and such.  I'm curious on the fitment.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: No VIN numbers on block

« on: December 21, 2015, 03:47:09 AM »

I didn't pay attention to the LOS cars when I was reading that section but Jerry's book mentions the Norwood cars basically the exact opposite saying they stamped vins on the pad until about Jan 69 when they found it easier and made the switch to the oil filter area if I'm reading that right.  Odd that LA would be opposite? 

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 17, 2015, 10:41:08 PM »

Doesn't appear to be the case. Chevy published the last VIN produced for each month, works out to just over 18,000 cars built in December 1968. The plant was closed the 24th & 25th of course but may have worked a couple of Saturdays. Works out to almost exactly 912 cars per day, the known plant capacity. For whatever reason, not many 12D in our db. Even stranger: 12E.

I wasn't aware there aren't many 12D cars in the data base.  If you like William, PM an email to me and I'll send you a pic of the data plate and type the vin with it.  I'm sure it's not in the data base, it's been sitting nearly 30 years dormant.  Shucks when I registered it last week the DMV told me it was purged from the system, haven't had it registered since 87.   Maybe from the tag date and the vin, could you possibly hone in on a day the car would have been produced (roughly)?

Why would there be few Z28's built late in December?

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 16, 2015, 11:00:46 PM »

The current Mecum pictures make the car look more purple than the other pictures i have seen of the car and of other Evening Orchid Impalas I have seen in person. Anyone else notice that?

Previous auction pictures:

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/PA0715-224801/0/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28/4-Speed/


I see they also omitted the letter from the original purchaser where he told of how his wife was very disappointed when she saw the car and hated the Evening Orchid color. She wanted more like Plum Crazy purple. I have to agree with the wife. Not the best color for this car.

Imagine the estimated value of a Plum Crazy special order!

Would look better with some black stripes to break it up, and would work better with the vinyl top too.

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 16, 2015, 10:58:58 PM »

William,
I checked one wheel.  It appears to be K18 12.  On the other side of the stem it's harder to read but it's either 11 or 17, then the YH code.  I don't know if the others match or not as far as the date goes but they all have a YH stamp, I'll have to investigate that further.  Only have 4, there hasn't been a spare with this car since I've had it.

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 16, 2015, 07:55:25 PM »

If it's any help William I'll dig them back down and see if I can't clean up that area better to read a date.  Since we are going to daily drive this thing for while, I removed them from the car for safe keeping and tossed the new tires on some FW's to drive on.

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 16, 2015, 04:20:37 PM »

So this is a fairly early car Kurt....  Thanks for that.  It was probably listed I just didn't pay attention.

Likely built on or about 21 November 1968... so the AD wheels would be correct.

Good info.  Mines a 12D car but has YH wheels on it.  I wonder when that change over occurred?

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 16, 2015, 12:16:20 PM »

So this is a fairly early car Kurt....  Thanks for that.  It was probably listed I just didn't pay attention.

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General Discussion / Re: EO Z28 at Mecum Kissimmee 2016

« on: December 15, 2015, 06:53:44 PM »

I just find it interesting how time seems to change things - a few years ago this car was the subject if extensive debate on the original colour actually being EO, was restored & sold on eBay for $59 k in 2014 & now is on the block for $225k.

I hope any potential buyer knows the history...

I think for any potential buyer to know the history, all parties involved would have to be present at the auction.  Including the original owner, the dealer, as well as Jerry and anyone else involved in this car so they can all put their heads together and let the buyer draw a conclusion.  Otherwise I seriously doubt any potential buyer at a big auction is going to know much of anything about the history other than what the auction house discloses.   Most older people buying this stuff, including myself, don't spend a whole hell of a lot of time on the computer searching websites and chit chat about this or that.  Some people just don't have the time for it, among other things.  So even though the car has been talked about on the internet fairly extensively,  I'd be willing to bet there is an extremely small percentage of people that know about it.

Neat car though, don't care what color it is really, but it's a real Z and you don't need a bunch of paperwork to back that up (if it's an X-code car).  However I would be completely shocked if it brought anywhere near the money they hope to get, because there is nothing special about it other than this controversial color.   For that kind of money I could buy a couple of Hemi Cuda's, or 2-3 LS6 Chevelles, or just about anything big block and rare with low production numbers in any brand and still have cash in my pocket.  Hell even my SCJ wouldn't bring that kind of money and it's documented through Kevin Marti as one of just a handful.  But that's just me I guess.

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General Discussion / Re: 1969 Z/28 authenticated by the a member of the CRG?

« on: December 15, 2015, 02:52:08 PM »

I've seen this car forsale before several months back.   I think they wanted something close to 6 figures before.  Looks to me they finally came down to a more realistic number and the car sold.

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General Discussion / Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum

« on: December 15, 2015, 02:44:53 PM »

I wouldn't pay that amount no matter what I read about it, lol.

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General Discussion / Re: red on red 69 Z at mecum

« on: December 14, 2015, 06:53:29 PM »

X33- your cowl would match the gloss of stripes and firewall would be more of an eggshell. 

This does look like a nice car, just doesnt look as original as the description leads you to believe.

Good to know Bill, thanks.  My eye's aren't deceiving me then, lol.

I knew the factory would spray that area white when white stripes were ordered, and it was a pretty quick and dirty type of job.  I wasn't sure if they did that with black stripes but from what I can see on mine, it sure looks like they did.