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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 09, 2014, 12:26:10 AM »

Its easy to get excited about something when its right in front of you and you have an opportunity. But, it takes some discipline to walk away when it doesn't make sense. Good for you. I like that color combo too.

Yeah I agree.  I will say it was very cool to snoop around it for several hrs and see something untouched since '75 (wow..only 6-7 yrs after built) and how it really rolled off the Norwood line.  Seeing the overspray and all, heck even the frame rails were silver and solid.

and to ZLP955,  yeah it would bother me to sink more $$ than it'd be worth.  But whoever buys should definitely have Jerry come to verify/certify that it's the real deal.  Cause once you start cutting away..you now have a RS tagged as a Z 

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 11:40:35 PM »

VINCE Z28 Has an inspiring story of chasing down a drivetrain that you should read, here, on the site. With the car staying in the same area its whole life and only two owners, it may not be as hard to locate, at least as many searches go (difficult and deadends). Finding the drivetrain(born with) would be a game changer. Good luck and proceed with caution.

Yeah Vince, I've pretty much wrote it off.  The more I started to weigh things I don't believe it to be a smart monetary move.  Though not to build and flip, it's purely for myself as it's been my dream car.  But I'm not about to get caught up in the "it's a Z" bug.  No drive-train was a HUGE turn off.  I wanted to make sure this wasn't some sleeper stowed away.     

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 11:24:36 PM »

Using my first gen calculator, I come up with $19,693.02

Paul

Hey Paul you must of grabbed the wrong calculator.  I'd didn't say grab the "one of a kind calculator" ..lol

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 10:25:11 PM »

An early Norwood car could have the crayon X code behind the back seat. It looks pretty rusty and yes missing the original engine and trans is a bummer but I really like that color combo.

I'm with you there.  The color combo has gotta be RARE as most were Silver on black.   The main reason why I had to drive up to look at it.  Interesting to say the least.  Also on the roof was the drive shaft and what I'm guessing was the original chrome air breather cover. It was in pretty good shape and it looked to have part of the "302" decal intact.   I was able to make out part of the 3 and the 0.

Oh btw..The original owner had spray painted it a darkish blue..yeah go figure.  In many of the area's you can scratch the blue paint off the silver.  The underneath of the trunk lid still looks new with the cortez silver .. crazy !

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 10:20:00 PM »

Kind of an interesting story as to how the current owner which is the 2nd owner got it.
He's a collector of the amphibious cars.  He was in central Fla about 8 yrs ago, came across a "water meter reader" guy and asked.. "you ever come across any old cars sitting in others backyard"?  The meter reader actually gave him directions to where this Camaro was sitting for years.  As he got closer to the car he noticed it was a RS (saw the hidden lights) then got closer and saw the Z badges.  The current owner (middle aged guy) said he still never really believed it to be a real Z until he started reading JM's Z book a few yrs ago.  The original owner was a black gentleman who bought it new when he got home from serving in Vietnam. drove it until he blew the engine in 1975, then parked it in his sisters backyard.  Supposedly the Trans was pulled also and put into the 1st owners buddies '68 Camaro, which was somewhere also in central Fla.  Block and Trans could still be around somewhere in central Fla.  The current owner told me he found some pictures of the original owner with the car new under the rear seat along with some small metal plate with numbers on it.  I was thinking the POP,  but he seems to know what the POP is and said that that wasn't what he had found.  So I don't know what he would be referring to.  

Anyway, thought it was a cool story

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 10:00:07 PM »

I was all over and under that car.  Hell it's so jammed in this place that I literally got on a blanket and slid on water and crap..lol from under the rear just to get to the driver side rear wheel well just to look at the dual exhaust hanger strap that's welded to the frame rail.  I'm also guessing since some of the early Z's had no "X" code and this was built as a 08B date that there wasn't any crayon markings as well,  I checked and didn't see anything.  But there's no doubt that this is a true RS Z.. no doubt !  Ashame there's no motor and tranny.  

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 09:35:49 PM »

The auction has 5 more day to go and the seious bidders will use Auction Sniper or Bidnapper in the last few secions to bid. S

But if someone wants it now. They can get it for the $9500.  He will remove from ebay for a deposit of $500, I just got off the phone with him again for the 3rd time.  Tried getting for $8500 and told him I'll give it to him in cash in 30 minutes.  A good guy, but said "No way"  He'll let it rot away before he takes less than $9500.  When I was there over the 2 hours he actually took 3 calls in reference to it.
I think I'll hold off,  I know in the long run that without a motor and trans I'll always feel like somethings is missing.  And for the money I'll sink into it, I can find a numbers Z out there in time.

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 07:41:31 PM »

Yes this is the car.  I'm 30 minutes away and was just there for 2 hours going over the car and crawling all around and under.  As I stated above..will need complete restoration in and out.  Reason why I'm asking for opinions.  My plan is strictly for me and me only.  A restoration project hobby, in my spare time that I don't mind taking 5+ yrs to complete.

Believe it or not the firewall is complete and solid except one small fist size area on the passenger side where it meets the floor and trans tunnel..easy fix.  Will need of course a complete floor pan as one can flintstone it now..lol.  The trunk pan is solid on the upper portion were it laps up against the rear floor pan and the shock towers along with both inner and outer wheel wells.  The bottom of the trunk is gone from rust and inner tail pan is rusty as well.  You can reach from the trunk area and get up and around the wheel wells to see that they're solid.  The rear RS panel has 2 rusty areas as well, 1 each on each side were it meets the qrt panels.  Qtrs, doors, fenders...blah blah will all need replaced.  Roof panel is solid.

But in general that was my concern..is $9500 to much for a non motor and trans true RS Z that has a rare color combo of Cortez with Red interior.  I have no problem spending what it takes but I also don't wanna spend 80K when I can spend less on a numbers Z

Thanks

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 06:50:16 PM »

Trying to move fast as I'm close to leaving a deposit. 

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General Discussion / Re: What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 06:25:29 PM »

I would definitely have Jerry Mc come to verify also since there's no other original papers.  But it's a true RS Z for sure.  The interior is all there also but the only thing salvageable would probably be the seats. So knowing that a complete restore is in line for all new metal and interior.. under 10k would be a steal ?
I'll be doing the restore myself on my jig.  I just didn't want to over pay for a Z without having a motor or trans.

Thanks

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General Discussion / What's it worth, untouched Cortez silver 69 RS Z

« on: June 08, 2014, 05:57:59 PM »

Hello all,
I have a chance to buy a true barn find, a true 69 RS Z.
Here's what I do know.. I just drove to see this car in literally a barn.  
It's all original and was last driven and tag in '75.  Still has the license plate hanging on it.  A non "X" code Z
Trim tag is 69 cortez with 719 red custom interior.  Build is 08B Sept '68.  Had the flat hood, dual exhaust hanger plate, RS tail panel (removed the light) with factory cut outs,  front disc, 5-3/4 Pitman arm (measured), proportioning valve, 4 sp center console w/o gauges, no tach, and the complete original RS lights and system, the BO 0827G1 rear also..a non posi 373. Also still has all the RS & Z28 badges with the original GM p/ns on them.
Everything that's a sign of a true Z except there's no motor or transmission.
Has solid frame rails, inner/outer wheel wells and rockers..basically like the rest it would need a complete restoration.
So knowing that it's a true RS Z early sept build without motor or transmissions, whats a ball park value ?

Thanks for any help