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Decoding/Numbers / Original Horns #289 & 290 with odd dates or not ?
« on: September 17, 2014, 02:52:35 PM »
Hey all,

Here again with another unique and confusing date.  I was bouncing around and ran across two Delco Remy horns with odd dates.   They show as a #289 dated 1C9 and #290 dated 2C9.

I thought these horns were dated as YR then MTH then Wk and since there's not 9 weeks in a month what are these ?   Are these '71 & '72 and did Delco Remy change their stamping procedures after '69 ?   Or are these '69's and the YR and WK are backwards ? and if that's the case could that of happened 1 week apart from one another.

Also I found an old thread over on from 2006.  A gentleman there was listing his horn dates and also listed that he had a '69 dated 1C9.

Has anyone else ever heard of this happening or seen ?  I posted a pic that shows the "1C9" date, a little hard to see.

Thanks for any input

Originality / What's the correct Alternator bracket for a 69 Z/28
« on: August 22, 2014, 01:05:31 AM »
Hello all,
Thought I try here for an answer to what are the correct Alternator brackets for a 69 Z/28 with the original alternator.  I was given some parts for a 69 Z that I have and I happen to get 2 different front lower Alternator brackets.   They have different bents in them at different locations.  Ones got to be the correct one.  What would the other be for and why.  I have the factory #837 Alternator as well.  Are the brackets different because the alternators are different from one another.. an #837 from a regular Alt ?

Thanks for any help.  

General Discussion / 69 Z/28 X77 garage/barn find
« on: August 09, 2014, 03:37:28 PM »
Hello all,
I stumbled across this X77 Z about a month ago thatís been literally garaged and barn kept since 1979-80.  I just got it home yesterday after a longggggg day and late nite.   I wanted to share the story and pics with those interested.  I thought the story was interesting enough to share.

The original owner (Jack) bought it new from Liberty Chevy in New York.  Jack & wife moved from NY to Denver to Texas then settle in Tampa in 1977.  It was driven as a family car until 1978.  Jack traded it off for a $700 trade-in value toward a 4 door family car as they now had a 3 year old son.  (see pic of wife holding son and in stroller, Jack under the hood).  The Z was bought by a lady (2nd owner, who's still a mystery) who only owned it for a year then listed it in the local Tampa News paper to sell (see original paper clipping).  A guy name Tom (3rd owner) bought it from the ad where it was being advertised for $1700 "69 Camaro Z28 good condition, stock from factory".   Can I still sign up ? I'll take a dozen at the price..crazy   Tom drove it for 1 year during his senior year in high school 1979.  The Tampa dealer or the mystery 2nd owner repainted it to white with blue stripes, a reverse of the factory colors.  I'm guessing the Tampa dealer repainted, figuring the car being 10-12 yrs old needed a new paint job to get a better sell price (group pics below).  Shortly after graduating Tom started tearing the Z apart because he wanted to freash'n up the motor and repaint it back to it's original colors.  (reason you see car apart in the group pic).  Then again shortly after that Tom passed away from a motorcycle accident and the car sat in his/wifeís garage for the next 20 years untouched until 2000.  In 2000, Phil (4th owner, Toms High School best friend) bought it from Tomís wife.  Phil stated he bought because he knew it was untouched (except for what his frd Tom had done) and all original.  Phil towed it home with the parts boxed up.  There Phil parked it in his climate controlled garage/barn with the intention of rebuilding it someday.  That day never came as Phil said he was also more of a hot rodder than a numbers guy and since this Z retained every original part from the radiator tag to the tire jack and lug nuts he knew it deserved to be restored back to its original condition rather than cut up and hot hodded around.  This guy Phil, coolest dude around.  Had a garage/barn separate from his house.  A/C'd with a dozen other cars inside including his own 68 Camaro and a 70 Chevelle from his high school days.

The Z is complete with the born DZ block/engine, M20 transmission and BU 373 rear.  Has every engine components from the carb to oil pan.  Carb, intake, Alt, balancer, pulleys, heads, smog, chrome breather, crank, cam, "0" rockers, every nut and bolt...Everything !  Original YH rims, brake calipers, suspension, all body panels and Interior.  Interior seats and console are in excellent condition (all wrapped in blankets since 1979).  Z has only 59K original miles
Car needs complete restoration but has 99% of all the born with parts for the car.  Very little metal work needed as it is overall solid from front to back.
Born with color is Dusk Blue code 51 and standard blue Interior code 715 with a white vinyl top.
I have all the original paper work, the original owners name and number who now lives in Arizona.   The POP and even the newspaper clipping when it was for sale for $1700
The original owner, Jack now lives in Arizona.  I was able to get his email address also.  Jack ordered this with power steering, no rear spoiler, flat hood and console w/gauges.  Jack stated the reason he ordered w/o a rear spoiler was because his wife didnít like the way it looked.

Thought I'd post this.  #4053 carb looking for a home if someone needs a 902 date

Decoding/Numbers / 03B X77D80 Trim Tag ?
« on: July 14, 2014, 12:47:30 PM »
Hey all.. I just thought this was kinda odd.  I discovered this TT while browsing around.  I didn't think GM was stamping "D80" after the "X" codes until sometime toward the end of May.   Any thoughts ?  Rare ? Fake ? or was I mislead on when GM started the D80 stamp.

To me the "6" doesn't look correct in "69" .. IMO


Decoding/Numbers / DZ stamp..opinions
« on: July 10, 2014, 09:28:38 PM »
Hey guys

What's your opinion on this DZ stamp and TT.   It's on a Van Nuys 02B built Z28.   Owner has owned for the last 13 yrs and it's been buried in his barn/storage among 6 others cars the last 2 yrs.
Says it's complete numbers matching drive train.   Engine is V1210DZ, Trans P9A27B and the rear is BU1207

I also have another ?.. I know Norwood switched the location of the partial vin off the pad around Jan but what about Van Nuys ? The owner of this Z says the partial vin is near the oil filter and it matches the dash VIN

Thanks guys for any help

Decoding/Numbers / Are these numbers good .. 69 Z ?
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:31:35 AM »
Hey guys, me again  ;D   Still searching for a real deal Z and ran across this one.  An Oct 68 build "10D" Hugger Orange w/Blk Houndstooth (I'll try to post the Trim tag as soon as I get a picture).  The rear and motor are to be original but the trans is not (but date correct).  Here's the DZ stamp (V1012DZ) along w/the VIN on the pad (looks like 9N520843) and the Alternator (837).

Opinions ?

Thanks again guys/gals

Decoding/Numbers / Fake or real DZ stamp and partial Vin ?
« on: June 16, 2014, 08:37:26 PM »
Looking for opinions and help.  I'm seeking a real 69 Z either restored or in need of restoration.  I've inquired out an X77 and was given these pics of the engine DZ stamp and the VIN stamp near the Oil filter.  I'm waiting on a better pic of the TT.  It's an 05A build and so far the numbers align within.  Does the DZ stamp look to crisp and straight along the blocks edge or can that be the norm ?  Also am I seeing some other numbers below the VIN stamp on the oil filter location..looks like I'm seeing part of a 3 or 5 or maybe I'm seeing things.


Hello all,
I have a chance to buy a true barn find, a true 69 RS Z.
Here's what I do know.. I just drove to see this car in literally a barn.  
It's all original and was last driven and tag in '75.  Still has the license plate hanging on it.  A non "X" code Z
Trim tag is 69 cortez with 719 red custom interior.  Build is 08B Sept '68.  Had the flat hood, dual exhaust hanger plate, RS tail panel (removed the light) with factory cut outs,  front disc, 5-3/4 Pitman arm (measured), proportioning valve, 4 sp center console w/o gauges, no tach, and the complete original RS lights and system, the BO 0827G1 rear also..a non posi 373. Also still has all the RS & Z28 badges with the original GM p/ns on them.
Everything that's a sign of a true Z except there's no motor or transmission.
Has solid frame rails, inner/outer wheel wells and rockers..basically like the rest it would need a complete restoration.
So knowing that it's a true RS Z early sept build without motor or transmissions, whats a ball park value ?

Thanks for any help

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