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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 1969 COPO - Owner looking for info. on: September 25, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
Could be the makings of an interesting story if that's what it really is.....
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/wan/4672816554.html

2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Hours of body part install on: September 17, 2014, 08:41:12 PM
Just got my '67 back from the body shop last Friday night. I mentioned on another thread that Kerr had started that I was working with one of the larger insurance based shops in my area (Northeast) and that they agreed to take on my project as filler work. I negotiated a rate of $45/hr. The job ended up being replacement (due to extensive rust) of the following:
1. Rear shock towers (both) - area about 18x8
2. Inner wheel arches (both)
3. Quarter size hole around rear floor drain plug
4. Quarter size hole in pan near gas tank strap mount
5. Patch both forward outer wheel arches at rocker access plugs - the holes had rusted larger in size so plugs no longer fit.

The techs were pretty skillfull and we decided not to go with a whole new trunk pan install as it was generally in good condition. However, I did buy a full pan from Summit Racing to save on fabrication time as there's quite a bit of sandwiched metal and contours in the shock tower area - so was better to cut the bad stuff out and replace with a preformed piece to minimize the weld lines. The Car will need rear quarters at some point - but I can live with them for now (that will be part of the full outer resto when I'm not hemorraging college money)

Total billed hrs was 50.5 - so a little under $2300 in labor.
So I agree with the general opinion - I think your your hrs estimate is way low. We figured initally about 20 hrs per side - but once we got going - more rust! I would easily add 25% additional labor cost to your worst case estimate.
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: body parts, am i over looking anything.. also... on: September 06, 2014, 05:05:18 PM
Suggestion if you are in no rush...
I'm knee deep in the restoration of my '67 L30/M20 and I'm no welder either. I needed to address some rust issues around the shock towers and inner wheel arches  so I visted a few local body shops (the large insurance based operations - not small resto shops) and explained my situation. Some were not interested at all but a couple were.  For the one I ended up going  with I was able to negotiate a reduced hourley rate for the repairs. All told me up front that its very hard to estimate these jobs because you never know what you are going to find (as you well know!)  They were also fine with me ordering the parts (keep in mind these shops work off  very defined insurance lists for prep/paint/etc) - so they were glad to not have to flip though the internet looking for parts not in their insurance data base.
Now the down side. The agreement was they would use the job as "filler work".That means no defined completion date (and no nagging)  Their work to date has been great.  I've been checking in every few weeks and taking pictures along the way - but they've had the car for >2  months for what would probaly take 1-2 weeks if they were totally focused. The other concern I'm sure your're thinking is quality.  Its been great as I've had as many as 5 shop tech's involved.  These guys daily job is really just unbolting and rebolting new parts - but at some time they've all done restoration work so the combined experience has really been a benefit.
Your situation is MUCH more extensive and I'm not sure if anyone would take it on - but you never know. The final item I'll mention is because the shop is doing  a little at a time  - I'm very aware of the $$$ to date and can just stop - so I can adjust my plan (and budget) and not end up with a car thats in a million  pieces with jobs half done and beyond my abilites to put back together. Good luck!
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Frt Bumper Stamp on: July 05, 2014, 08:26:37 AM
Old thread here but while rehabbing my front bumper (67 L30/M20) - ran across a similar stamp.
Just posting for reference  in support of the orig. post that the stamping was not a one-off.
Number reads: 52H05 and is also located in 4 separate places.

*Rear bumper does not seem to have any stamps at all.
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Bumper Finish on: July 03, 2014, 01:50:36 PM
Thanks guys. I'll try a couple suggestions and see what looks best.
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Bumper Finish on: June 22, 2014, 07:55:52 PM
Looking for coating suggestions for the back side of a bumper. Recrome is not part of the plan right now - really just looking to stop any further damage. Driver car. Outside finish is pretty good (not perfect) - but matches all the other 47 year old chrome. Thanks
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Fuel Line - '67 L30 w/Q-Jet on: June 15, 2014, 08:38:14 PM
So while replacing the fuel lines on my '67 L30 - I apparenty didn't pay close attention to the diameter of the fuel line  from the tank to the pump (this is what I get for working on the car at 1:00 a.m.), ordered and installed a 3/8" line only to discover today when comparing it to the line from the pump to the carb - that the originals are  both 5/16". So I now have 3/8 into the pump and 5/16 out into the the carb - will this cause problems? Pump is stock. Carb is stock Q-Jet for L30/275. Stupid mistake that I'm going to correct - but will this cause problems in the short run to the the pump, carb, etc? Thanks - Chris
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Helicopter crashed in our field on: April 27, 2014, 08:10:59 AM
Still crappy here in NH. 41 this a.m. w/rain (snow I hear up north) 1st decent size flea market scheduled for today - didn't bother to go as most booths are outside.
At this rate the '67's not going to hit the road until the 4th of July!.
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / 2014 Z28's sold out. on: April 24, 2014, 03:49:56 PM
I believe thats a cool $37,500,000.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/75-000-camaro-z-28-already-sold-chevy-170029718.html
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 12, 2014, 07:47:43 AM
Thanks for all the comments. I think I'll start by cleaning out all the crud. Currently assessing the other side which has at least as much rot and maybe a little more.
Thanks again.
p.s. - (-vellu) Looks like old car rust and dirt in Finland is the same as here in the states!
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Treating inside of rocker rails & the snow is gone! on: April 10, 2014, 09:38:44 PM
Ok. So while cleaning up the area in the lower-forward wheel wheels (rust around one of those little plastic plugs) - I got to thinking, has anyone addressed getting some rust preventative down inside the length of the rocker rails? How? What did you use?  I can see down in there a little and it doesn't look too bad - but some surface rust for sure. Doesn't seem to be any way to get the scale and grit  (and I think a few seed shells from the varmits) out of their either.

p.s.  - just marked it on the calendar, April 10th .....last of the snow melted here today in southern NH.  However, the big lake further north - Winnepesaukee  - is still covered w/ice. I envy all the talk of the shows down South as I'm still garage bound!
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Gas tank date codes on: April 05, 2014, 07:52:18 PM
Meant to attach this for reference.
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Gas tank date codes on: April 05, 2014, 07:08:23 PM
Hi Mike. I remembered you from some postings last summer when I picked up the car and you mentioned they were born close together. My trim tag corner code is D671 and the production run # is  LOS 8461.  So very close.  I've been picking thru the car off/on all winter  - and will be sure to stay in contact as these cars I'm sure have a lot in common. Chris
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Research Topics & Reports / Re: Gas tank date codes on: April 05, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
Here's a '67 for the list. Just pulled the tank last weekend on my '67 LOS 11A car. Code is 42  9D which doesn't seem quite right given the number 9. Could it be upside down and should be a 6?. Referencing some other posts -  the other 11A car listed  (40 6N) I believe is very close in production to mine - so go figure?
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 327 L30 Intake Manifold date on: March 10, 2014, 06:52:03 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going with its good!
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