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16  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / another trim tag real or fake on: June 20, 2013, 12:36:21 AM
what do your think
17  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Help decoding this PA Amish barn find 302 engine on: June 16, 2013, 03:51:56 AM
here is more info for you

Block casting
Casting   Years   CID    HP           Main     Notes

3932386    1969    350    300/350    4           Passenger/Chevelle/Chevey II/Corvette/Camaro
3932386    1969    302    290            4           Z-28 Camaro
3932386    1969    327                   2               ?? Unverified
3932388    1969    350    Various    2/4           Passenger/Camaro Rare?-NO! See FAQ on site
3932388    1969    302    290            4           Z-28 Camaro Rare?-NO! See FAQ on site

suffix (MO)
Code     Year    CID    HP    BBL    Appl
MO    1968    302    290    4    m/t,4 spd
MO    1967    302    290    4    Spec. High Perf. 4-speed


but i gonna tell you the same thing most will, post pics of stamp pad, and casting numbers off the block and crank, you already have the oil pan off, so it shouldn't be a problem.  the  K198 i would think is to late for a 68 302 since the DZ was already available.
18  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: did DZ block have screen in valley like in the pic from the factory? on: May 30, 2013, 12:08:19 PM
I know a guy that still uses it in all his the motors he builds, he has a good reputation, so he doesn't mess with success, i was at his shop last week, and saw a fresh short block with the valley painted
19  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: did DZ block have screen in valley like in the pic from the factory? on: May 29, 2013, 09:16:28 PM
Dave, What Gary said. I remember reading in a HOT ROD mag back in the early 70's that had an article in it about prepping a block for faster oil flow back to the pan and those 4 drain back corners were smoothed out and screens were epoxied in to catch debris. If I remember correctly there was something about smoothing out the valley walls all they way around too. As a matter of fact the 350 LT1 spec engine in my Z right now has had the valley smoothed out. I'm assuming done by the previous owner.

yea, seem my share of motors with this done but never from the factory, seller believes motor my have been through the hands of Al Bartz or Traco at some point in its history, but since its been apart and has different heads and intake, i think its a moot point


i did register and sent a PM thanks for the help Gary

Thanks
Dave
20  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: DZ block/motor partial VIN 9N616420 or 9N618420 on: May 29, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
It's probably 9N618420. That fits the date.

Thanks for your help Kurt,

here is a link to the pic of the stamp pad

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10855.0

and here is the valley screens

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=10870.0
21  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / Re: DZ block/motor partial VIN 576420 or 578420 on: May 29, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
really hard to read as it seems stamp runs off side of block

after closer inspection looks like first number is a 6 not a 5 as previously posted, would it be possible for a mod to change title? new here and dont know who the mods are. 

Thanks
Dave
22  Orphans - documentation or VIN-stamped drivetrains - in search of the original cars / 1969 - Orphans / DZ block/motor partial VIN 9N616420 or 9N618420 on: May 29, 2013, 02:08:04 AM
Stamp pad V03I1DZ
casting number 3956618
casting date C 8 9

block is 30 over, standard crank, pink rods, 30 over pistons, 70 dated angel plug heads fully ported and polished, 140 cam, timing cover and balancer, 14044886 intake, screens in valley pan.

seller is pretty firm on $8K and can be reached at addvintage@roadrunner.com


23  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: did DZ block have screen in valley like in the pic from the factory? on: May 25, 2013, 08:49:49 PM
Hey Gary

That's what i assumed, but just wanted confirmation

Thanks
Dave
24  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / did DZ block have screen in valley like in the pic from the factory? on: May 25, 2013, 08:03:41 PM
seller says there original?

25  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: new guy intro on: May 23, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
yup original hood here too, poor job of repair

thats what i would do, the lanyard thing
26  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: new guy intro on: May 23, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
Hey Gary,

your car have hood pins?

Mine did too, but holes were filled in when z was last repainted.
27  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ Stamp on: May 23, 2013, 02:28:34 PM
Dave,
for 'pure enjoyment' of your car, your plan is best...  Smiley
but you're going to enjoy driving it so much, you'd better build up your gasoline fund..  Smiley

Thank you Gary, thats the plan

Block is 4 days after mine. Mine has an unusual date cast of a109. It's a 661 also. My off-road  am has the 141 stamp also

thanks Bill
28  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ Stamp on: May 22, 2013, 11:15:57 PM
yea, when you get guys hoarding DZ parts, and guys using DZ parts on there clones   Roll Eyes, it drives the parts for sale through the roof.

I think I'm gonna build a vintage style TA car VS original date correct&numbers car, that way i dont have to worry about date correct $$$$$ parts, just gonna try to keep as visually correct as possible.

i contacted minilite wheels and i can get a set of wheels for what your getting ready to pay for an alternator.  

sorry if i offended the purist, guess im just another hoarder with some DZ parts Wink
29  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ Stamp on: May 22, 2013, 09:41:06 PM
Hey Gary,

just been looking for something closer to my build date, seller asked me to make him an offer, i did, not sure if he will accept, so your not off the hook yet, lol sorry for dragging this on.

i also found another motor built two weeks before my car.

right now waiting on the above motor, it might have some interesting history, i'll share after purchase or i pass.

was told uship is very reasonable and easy.

Thanks
Dave
30  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: DZ Stamp on: May 22, 2013, 08:56:29 PM
will work on getting more pics of vin, but think i will move forward with purchase, thanks guys
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