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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / is this a real DZ stamp on: April 05, 2015, 03:30:57 PM

2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: December 08, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
Great pics.  Do I see hood pins?

yes, holes are still in core support, but were filled in hood before i got it
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: December 08, 2014, 09:53:36 PM
heres one with his wife

notice the plate, his name is Ken

4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: December 08, 2014, 09:46:49 PM
got a picture from original owner, it still has the 8" rim on rear, he and his wife were at the local Pontiac dealer looking for a car for her.

pic was taken sometime in 1970

5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: December 03, 2014, 09:37:51 PM
just thought i would update,

I have some pictures coming from the original owner who i spoke with earlier today, he informed me that both he and his son had failed to get in contact with the gentleman who owned the shop that he believed the original DZ was in, but gave me a name... Robert (bob) Lecce.  i did some searching and found Bob, and for $1.99 was able to locate a phone number for Bob.

well said what the hell, and called the number, and sure enough Bob answered the phone,  I advised him i got his name from Ken ****, he said how is old Kenny doing, and how can i help you.  I gave him the whole story and he remembered everything and even game me some more info, he said he remembered helping pulling the original 302 and that it sat under his work bench for as lot of years, confirmed that what he had was just a short block.

and here is the bad news, Bob sold the business quite a few years ago, and left parts he had no use for behind, including the motor to my Z, and last year the building was demolished   Cry and unfortunately had no clue where the old motor may have ended up
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: any of you ever sued over a car you bought on: July 22, 2014, 09:12:50 PM
Shawn have you tried talking with the seller and resolving this,sometimes reminding him about word of mouth or as I like to call it (The Internet Justice League) can change someones attitude real fast. Lawyers get expensive and the process is long and drawn out.

I would call seller(s) and let them know what you found and that the car is not as described, let them know that you would like to work things out as you believe they would not knowingly sell you a car in that condition, if they still blow you off, advise them that your next call will be to your bro-in-law (bs but tell them his a good lawyer) which wont cost you a dime, and that the money they'll spend in legal fees will far outweigh what your looking in restitution 
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: 1969 Z28 Cowl on: May 16, 2014, 02:46:52 AM
Subscribed, gonna need this info sooner or later
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 15, 2014, 06:38:55 PM
Wow! That's amazing hopefully the block is still saveable. Interesting he didn't want the console or tach in the car.

Yea, what it was is he didn't want a console, when he removed the console he no longer has a fuel gauge, so he removed the tach to install fuel gauge and added a sun tach, and oil, water were replaced with SW gauges below dash in line with trans tunnel
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New guy to forum with Old first Gen on: May 15, 2014, 04:59:13 PM
nice and welcome
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 15, 2014, 04:29:28 PM
Just hung up with Kenny (the original owner  Cool )

it was a good 45 minutes, car was order new from Jack Chevrolet, which is now closed, it was ordered in September of 68 and not received until April, car was ordered with endura front bumper, 4.10 rear end, it did have a console and tach in dash which he removed (console and tach), he didnt want console but could not get it that way, also ordered 4 wheel disk brakes which he didn't get, he also asked the dealer not to install beauty rings as he didn't want the rims scratched.

he installed the 8" corvette rear wheels which rubbed, so he buddy cut the lip on the fender to relieve some of the rubbing

3k miles later it spun a rod bearing while doing 70mph going down the road, it went back to the dealer for warranty, and they said they wouldnt replace to motor due to custom work done (headers, among a few other things, every owner has been a gear head) so they rebuilt it, according to the owner it never ran the same.

At 6k miles the motor blew up and he bought the 327 from a pro stock racer buddy of his (maybe some truth to 10K rpm from earlier) and gave the original motor to his buddy for storage while 327 was being freshened up

here is where it gets exciting last time he visited with his buddy the motor was still sitting under the work bench where he left it  Shocked Kenny said he will be back in that area in a few months June/July to visit with his kids and grand kids, and said he will make sure he stops and visits his buddy and see if the motor is still there and see if we can reunite motor and car  Grin Shocked
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Trim Tag 69 Z10 on: May 15, 2014, 01:40:37 AM
my car was built the same week
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 11:25:12 PM
Jimmy also mentioned that during his ownership of the car he installed some 8" corvette rally wheels with some BIG tires and stock fronts, i just laughed and let him know thats how the car sits now, but with some big dry rotted tires, he just laughed and said wow

the crazy part is that the car sat most of its life with bad motor, or waiting for a motor to be built/installed, and running down the 1/4, side street, it has a very nice original interior, and the speedo shows low miles under 28K, all owners said the car was never really a daily driver, but when the auto trans got installed the speedo stopped working, but how many miles can have been driven with a bbc 427, th 400, and 456 gears, last two owner (since 75) say they dont remember speedo rolling over, but can guaranty mile are actual.  

owner before me bought it as a roller, and only had it running for 6 months before he sold it to me, owner before that had the original trans with the 327, before it got replaced with the 427/400 so it has 28k+?+?+?+? miles lol Undecided  

Jimmy, also mentioned that Kenny might be the original owner  Cheesy
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 10:47:36 PM
10K, Wow! His memory may have embellished some of the facts. Would not be the first time I have heard a story strrreettccchheedd over A stout performer nonetheless. I know those short stroke SB's can really wail...those were the days.

I believe the 10k rpm out of a 327. Motor had to be built right to do it but they could.

10k rpm is very high and might be a stretch but anything is possible, and considering all the guys i talked to today were friends and gear heads, there might be some/slight truth to it, we hear of 302s being spun to the moon, and they (old owners) raced/played with the car during a time when no one was concerned with hurting the matching #'s motor only winning, but hey maybe he was just rounding  Grin

and its pretty cool to know it has some race history, yea its not well known/important, never set any records, but it was enjoyed by a bunch of gear heads

and since im a gear head, with some build ideas for the car that will upset the purist, but hey i'll keep it in the hot rod tradition the car has lived   Shocked

14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 05:55:23 PM
Very nice and fun to learn about the cars history and some good stories about it.

I wish I could do that onto car. My trail ends with the guy I got it from.

First-Congrats Dave! Were you inspired by my post about contacting previous owners? Vince's post about his car got me in gear and it paid off. Too bad the trail goes cold before 76~77 time period on my car. At least I know the last 3 owners now. I did not know the guy I got car from until this past October...can you imagine?

Second-C-Boy68ss AKA: YG with a C, Never say never. Check out this post:  a month ago by ME! I put an add on CL and got a call the next could have picked my jaw up off the floor! I have had this jewel(turd) since 79 (35 years) and never thought I would know any of its history. It was surreal to say the least.

Yes, and with shipping report being available figured it be worth a shot to google the info I already had, looks like the car spent most of its live with in a 20 radius, also Jimmy believes it was bought new at Clark Chevrolet
15  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: pretty cool on: May 14, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
The best part is got some questions answered

Always wondered why the factory 12 bolt had 4.56 in place of the
4.10s the code shows it should have, Jimmy told me when he raced it
he installed the current gears.  Jimmy told me when he got it under the hood was
a poorly built 302 (327/283), that he pulled and installed a 327 his buddy built that he
would regularly spin to 10k rpm, and that he doesn't remember losing a race with
that combo, also confirmed tach delete, that he got it with a sun tach clamped to steering
column, and no center counsel.
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