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91  Site Comments / Discussion / Test Drive / Re: test article on: June 01, 2014, 08:12:40 AM
test size
92  Site Comments / Discussion / Test Drive / test article on: June 01, 2014, 08:10:10 AM
test
93  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1967 Z-28 articles and road tests on: May 31, 2014, 06:21:04 AM
I have the 1968 Car Life Magazine which has a road test on the  68 Z.

( what did you resize your above scans at for posting ? )---steve

94  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Magazine Article - Thanks! on: May 30, 2014, 06:53:05 PM
Nice article ,good for you.
95  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 29, 2014, 08:04:44 PM
You are correct Gary, looked at another 68 protection plan booklet I have ,on the P.O.P tape next to buyer's city/state : 7/18/68,underneath Delivery date : 7/18/68 ( not a Camaro, old Chevy II I had in high school)

Not a funny story at the time...this one and the one for the Z sort have been intermingling for years in the glove compartment(no idea how it made it's way in there?)

Grabbed this one holding it up to the mirror and froze, in a panic about sprinted back out to the car and there was the bag with the Z's upside down in the glove compartment, little safer place now !

Why the Z's is different ? different dealers, different ordering circumstances ? One was built to get groceries ,one was built to GET IT ?
96  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bad Luck is Better Than No Luck; Right? on: May 29, 2014, 07:28:59 PM
My boxes of parts are all in, but not for a cool project ! Older I get ,the more I always look for the positive....now you get to build it how you want it. Plus, engines are one of the more pleasurable tasks, IMO. Too bad you don't live closer ,picked up a test stand last year with nothing on it. Never used it yet. After having one on the dyno...twice, good feeling knowing it's tuned and ready to fire once you set it in.
97  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 29, 2014, 06:41:26 PM
Mine was also ordered from a serviceman overseas ,no dealership printed on warranty book :" Foreign Distributers Division." Perhaps it made a difference. Pretty cool when all the dots connect with the dates Smiley
98  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 29, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
B-29     Vehicle Build Month

One-character code from the following table.            Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul
      1967  V   L   R   K   Z   S   P   W   N   Y   T   X
      1968  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
      1969  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
 late 1969  8   9   O   N

These codes were impregnated by the dealer ?

Nope. Everything that was die-imprinted on the P-O-P was done at the plant, when the plate was created in the Addressograph machine on the Final Line. All the dealer added was the GM-branded Dymo tape with the purchaser's name and address.

JohnZ...  I believe the 'date of sale' was also included by the Dealer on the DYMO tape with the purchaser, as that sale date specified the initiation of the warranty period.   If I'm wrong please correct me...  I'm going from memory of one I have from 1969.

Here's how mine goes down: 04D body assembly began
                                          P.O.P  B-29  build month: "5" May
                                          Report came back reading May 1
                                          No dates on 3 tape strips Buyer's name , mailing address
                                          In booklet under tag : Delivery day: 6-25-68  in ink
Thanks John, after reading (and decoding) thought I was correct on the dates, and which ones should match...you verified. The above is just mine, and a 68, curious if others vary ?
                                         
99  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 29, 2014, 05:47:58 AM
B-29     Vehicle Build Month

One-character code from the following table.            Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul
      1967  V   L   R   K   Z   S   P   W   N   Y   T   X
      1968  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
      1969  8   9   O   N   D   1   2   3   4   5   6   7
 late 1969  8   9   O   N

These codes were impregnated by the dealer ?
100  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 28, 2014, 07:46:36 PM
Hello everyone!!!!   Just received my dealer info and zone office number.   Also included was the build date of my 1969 Camaro RS/SS.  My cowl tag shows car was built "02D".
Per the letter from NCRS, car was built 3-10-69.   Would this "gap" in time be the time it took for someone back in the day to enter this info once the car was actually built???
Roy, please feel free to pipe in on this info if you can.  Thanks for all you have done here for everyone.    Don

The date will coincide with the month on your P.O.P
101  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original GOODYEAR E70-15 Wide Tread GT, Date Code? on: May 28, 2014, 07:43:52 PM
Feb,1969   plant GAD....according to chart. Check on the Mustang forums ( Shelby) Lots of info(links) on some threads there. Dig deep enough and you'll  find what you are looking for.Started with a guy wanting to verify the spare he had in the trunk. Unless pure coincidence, the numbers on my tires (5) coincide with the chart and translate to the proper time frame ( build date). Sorry can't be more help Bryan ,one of many numbers, and not a lot about it. Did my reading last year around this time, found what I was looking for and moved on. Shame about the tires, they were severely abused(hole shots) very early in the history of the car and used solely for winter storage. Most likely were off the car by 69. Side walls show no dry rot. In 90 I wanted to put the Ralleys back on and had new tires mounted, decided to keep them.

102  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available on: May 28, 2014, 08:36:47 AM
5/1/1968         Dealer code 1   zone 21       Overseas Distribution Division--Export

#1 owner ordered while in Vietnam ,came home and picked the car up in Michigan.

Giving him a call tomorrow to find out the dealership name , not much in NCRS under code 1  zone 21 , will be able to add to the data base.

I'm taking some time off next week ,getting him over here to have a few beers see if he has any old pics.
103  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original GOODYEAR E70-15 Wide Tread GT, Date Code? on: May 28, 2014, 08:06:40 AM
lots of people who don't work on cell phones
104  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original GOODYEAR E70-15 Wide Tread GT, Date Code? on: May 28, 2014, 08:02:40 AM
Pre 70 OE's should be in the above 7 digit format.

Some good readings concerning these era tires on the Shelby forum ,search around a bit. I have not read in depth on the subject, just enough to decipher year and month for my tires, which I already knew were original to the car.

This being somewhat rare, I will in the near future post better images of all 5.

Per P.O.P and NCRS production date on my Z  was May 1, as I began documenting all my date codes I have been somewhat surprised how close to production the parts match eg; tires April, Engine 4/23   Rear end 4/24  Trans 3/21  etc...

At one time they built E250's and Thunderbirds in my home town (literally the buildings were sold for scrap price a few years ago ,sad) As a kid I would see rail cars and semi's of parts being delivered. Huge rows of stacked parts on pallets were in and outside the plant ( south side) at the end (north side) a constant flow of cars would cross over a bridge and be parked awaiting shipment near the lake. Really have to appreciate on a grand scale how production remained in sync....without cell phones and the internet. ( They also built ships ,cranes, electrical parts. Manufactured Steel and seamless pipe) Around 500 manufacturing jobs remain in a city of 68,000 now. Seamless pipe.
105  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Original GOODYEAR E70-15 Wide Tread GT, Date Code? on: May 28, 2014, 07:15:17 AM
tried cleaning it up some
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