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211  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: '69 Z28 Project Car Value on: November 03, 2013, 10:12:05 PM
They were there earlier. Now gone over on TC as well.
212  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: new restoration endevour on: November 03, 2013, 12:45:34 PM
That is a great looking car..  To be honest I would clean the snot out of that thing, replace whatever absolutely needed to be replaced and keep it original..  Survivor cars are becoming harder and harder to come buy and to me are worth more to keep them as they were and preserve them..  Great project regardless!!
I agree, that is what I would do too.
213  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: November 01, 2013, 08:12:37 PM
Jerry M rebuilt and restored the 302 for my Z.   He used Seymour paint.


Wow Jerry does a nice job! Thanks again guys for all the responses and input!
214  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: November 01, 2013, 08:10:21 PM
If yours is the big block make sure you have the cast exhaust manifolds on when you do it.

Yes, and wasn't the water pump on before paint on the big block so therefore a bare look on some of the timing cover and back of the water pump?
215  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Happy Fall ya'll ! on: October 29, 2013, 05:02:26 AM
Its a beauty!!
216  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: October 26, 2013, 11:16:48 PM
Thanks for all the input and suggestions. I will check on these and also look back at old forums as mentioned.
217  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: October 26, 2013, 06:44:45 AM
I have my big block on the stand and it will be buttoned up from the intake to the pan by tomorrow. I will put on a good self etching primer for now but will want to put on the correct orange soon. I am trying to do a concourse frame off restoration on my car and want to do everything as close to factory correct as possible. If I'm not mistaken the factory used a big pot spray gun to paint the engines back in the day. What are you concourse, original guys using to paint the Chevy orange? I know most people use a rattle can but I was thinking about using a paint gun. Any suggestions or past experiences or correct paint color numbers would be helpful.
Thanks!
218  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: original paint 69 Z on ebay... "survivor" on: October 26, 2013, 06:26:13 AM
Sure glad you got her and it went to someone that will preserve and appreciate the originality. The first time it ran on EBay I contacted him and was very interested in it but just not in a position to buy it without selling one of my chevelles which I considered doing. Love the color and history of the car. Congratulations!
219  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z28 with Factory Cross Ram on: October 05, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
And the whole "Cross ram still in the trunk from the factory" we know was a myth that never happened. Jerry's book pages 30, 31 and 32
But nice sales pitch. Another issue going on with the car along with the ones already mentioned. The build date of 02B is to early for D80 on the cowl tag. This thing is looking very fishy. Fake trim tag I would say.

I understand this car is a sham for the most part, BUT there was a recent post by john mello showing vintage documents where 67 Z-28 did have the cross ram in the trunk, how long was done for and after seeing those documents how could you disprove that a cross ram didn't come in the trunk? thanks

I hear what you are saying and I have always tried to have the attitude that when it came to GM you never say never as it has been proven many times that with the right dealer or connections strings were pulled. But when it comes to this particular issue I am just going by what Jerry wrote in his book on pages 30,31 and 32. He spends quiet a bit of time on it. He says it never happened and has two letters from GM executives confirming that the cross ram set up was only available as an over the counter item and never came in the trunk from the factory. Maybe someone out there has some other evidence.
220  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z28 with Factory Cross Ram on: October 05, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
Yeah good point on the block dates. Just watched the video. What a bunch of major you know what. That car is as phony as a three dollar bill. Did you see how perfect that "factory" cross ram set up is still sitting in that trunk for the past 44 years. These are the types of guys that have ruined the market.
221  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69' Z28 with Factory Cross Ram on: October 05, 2013, 05:54:53 AM
And the whole "Cross ram still in the trunk from the factory" we know was a myth that never happened. Jerry's book pages 30, 31 and 32
But nice sales pitch. Another issue going on with the car along with the ones already mentioned. The build date of 02B is to early for D80 on the cowl tag. This thing is looking very fishy. Fake trim tag I would say.
222  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: HELP on: October 01, 2013, 06:56:43 PM
Do you know the state it was purchased new in or the last state it was registered in?  I purchased a 69 hugger orange Z about 2 years ago from a guy in North Carolina. He thought he was the second owner because he had seen the car since he was a young boy in his small town. After many years of trying to buy it and being turned down the owner finally let it go to him. He owned it from 1996 until Feb of last year when we purchased it. I called the N.C. DMV to see if they offered title histories and for $20. I received all there certified info back to the original owner and dealership purchased at new. The guy I bought it from was wrong, he was the third owner. Long story short I have tracked down both owners before him and both were good enough to sign and notarize affidavits for me and I just received pictures from the original owner today showing the car right after he purchased the 69Z new. I'm really excited about it and feel very fortunate. My Z still has the complete original drive train still in. I just had Jerry M. come certify it last month. He is a great guy and it was a great experience meeting him. Also as a bonus the original owner included a picture of him and the next car he purchased back in the day which was a hugger orange Yenko LT1 Nova. I read on the Yenko site were only 10 were sold in 1970 in that color.
So you are doing the right thing in trying. Hopefully you can start with the last state in which it was registered and IF they offer title history it will either take the car back to new or back to the state it came in from. And you just keep going back from there. I know some states offer this and many don't mostly because of privacy acts. Good Luck and let us know.
223  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Missing trim tag on: September 29, 2013, 08:01:59 PM
On my car it was both tags that the Highway Patrol checked. I watched him do it and then he wrote on his report "Paint Plate agrees to year" He was checking to see if the year on the trim tag matched the year on the VIN and title. This was Kansas don't know about other states.
Oklahoma did pass this law
http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195350
224  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Missing trim tag on: September 29, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
"The tag has nothing to do with title or registration"  William, in most states I am sure you are right about that but not in Kansas. When I bought my 69 Z a couple years ago from out of state, I went to register it and by law all out of state titles and cars have to be inspected by the State Highway Patrol. He inspected both tags and he wrote on his report that "Paint plate agrees to year". Not sure what kind of registration problems it would have caused me had it been missing. Also just read that it is illegal to sell a car in Oklahoma with a missing or altered trim tag.
225  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Decode a 1969 protecto plate ... Having difficulty on: September 15, 2013, 02:49:03 PM
You mention that the plate "Original owner apparently glued it down to one of the warranty documents" here and on your TC post. That was glued by GM and or the dealer when new. That's the way they all came. Just thought I would mention that in case you were thinking of detaching it.
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