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1  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Info for everybody,,,1969 Z28 for sale ? on: January 19, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
Rick, I think you are right. The very next picture after he shows the VIN on the pad.

VIN 124379N586332
2  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bad Luck is Better Than No Luck; Right? on: January 18, 2015, 08:31:41 PM
Wow, that looks great Darrell!
3  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Ron Pratte collection on: January 16, 2015, 12:31:58 PM
The BJ big money phenomenon is definitely confusing for sure. I understand the egos play a part. Its just a shame though because a lot of people watch their results every year to look for indicators of where the market is at on collector cars. They just never seem very reasonable or realistic to me. I went to Scottsdale last year for the first time and watched this pair of 69 Z's bring over 100K. Both were very nice restorations even to the point of being over restored. Both were non numbers matching, JM certified, real Z's. One with JL8 and the other had Cross/Ram. Its hard for me to believe that either one of those cars were really worth that kind of money especially the HO car at 143K (even though I know the NOS Cross/Ram parts alone do bring big money).  JMHO

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archive/Event/Item/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z-28-2-DOOR-COUPE-160982

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Archive/Event/Item/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z-28-2-DOOR-COUPE-160983
4  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: January 10, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
...we found the 69 Hugger Orange color matched almost spot on ....
Very interesting. Here in Au my brother and I used GM-H Sebring Orange, a color used on '69 Monaro's and Torana's.
It too is a very close match like the Hugger Orange.
Did he add a flattener to the Glasurit paint? Looks good!  Smiley
Thanks Rob!  No flattener, he used just base paint and actually added just a touch of clear to give it a little shine. I specifically didn't want it to be to shiny and I was very pleased with how it turned out.
5  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A original dealer license frame from virgina (south boston) on eBay on: January 10, 2015, 12:17:11 AM
Gary, you are right he was a Navy man stationed aboard the USS Muliphen. He had just returned from a tour of Viet Nam when he purchased the Z.

No, the front guards are not there now. Its funny you should mention them, after I posted these pictures I was asking myself that very question. I don't think I really care for them although I'm sure I will put them back on when I do the frame off someday.
6  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: A original dealer license frame from virgina (south boston) on eBay on: January 09, 2015, 10:20:04 PM
The original owner of my 69 Z/28 bought it new at Wilkins Chevrolet, Norfolk VA then went down the street a year later to Colonial to purchase a new 70 Yenko Deuce. Must have been a cool place to car shop back in the day. He sent me polaroid's of both cars.
7  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: More 69 Z/28 misrepresentation on ebay on: January 07, 2015, 10:47:56 PM
When I was looking through the first gen's for sale on ebay the other day, the color combo of this car caught my eye. I wasn't looking for something that could be a start to a thread, but the more I looked through the ad, the more things I saw that were wrong. I have learned many of the things that I now know about Camaro's from here and over at TC. I wondered how many others were being lured in by that mesmerizing color combo.  (Gary knows what I am talking about Smiley 
 
I decided the car was a fraud and I needed to expose it, as other fraudulent cars have been exposed on this site countless times before. This is the only reason I started the thread, both here and on TC. One TC member actually posted a thanks for the thread because he was giving serious consideration to the purchase of this very 69.
 
Kurt, thank you for confirming my statement concerning the fraudulent trim tag. I do not want to be wrong and misrepresent anything. The work and knowledge that you and the other CRG experts have done, and continue to do, is immeasurable!
 
 
 
I believe most people understand that my use of "ebay fraud" has to do with the seller and not the site. I am not in favor of publicizing certain information that could help the scammers. The exposure of another fake first gen Z/28 for sale was my only reason for starting this thread.
8  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / More 69 Z/28 misrepresentation on ebay on: January 04, 2015, 03:29:01 AM
A search didn't come up with anything on this VIN so I thought I would post it. Hopefully people are searching these VIN's before buying and getting ripped off.

VIN 124379N673525

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-TRUE-Z28-DZ-302-4-SPEED-FRESH-RESTORATION-12-BOLT-FRONT-DISCS-NICE-/281539274103?forcerrptr=true&hash=item418d0c6577&item=281539274103&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Fake Trim Tag
NOR108403 BDY
TR 720   72 B PNT
08C       X33
9  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: in case anyone is interested on: January 03, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Chick, I agree with you 100%!!
10  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Correct engine paint suggestions please! on: January 02, 2015, 11:03:55 AM
Thank you George, and yes Gary it sure does  Smiley
Happy New Year!
11  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What does my teacher have hiding in the auto shop on: January 01, 2015, 08:35:59 PM
Oh yeah, would love to look and check that baby out. Keep in touch with him, you just never know when something might change in his world and he might call you and be willing to let it go.
12  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: restoring YH rims on: January 01, 2015, 06:29:48 PM
I'm definitely not a body and paint guy by any means, so just thinking out loud here. I think when it comes time to do my YH wheels I will chemically strip them for fear of getting the sand or plastic or (whatever is used for blasting) down in the cracks and crevices of the wheels. Then if there are pits I would probably just use poly to fill, sand and prime before painting. Now that's a finish carpenter by trade talking so now the experts can take over Smiley
13  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: in case anyone is interested on: January 01, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
I thought maybe a big money guy would buy this Z to put in his "collection" so he could say " I have a rare, one of one car."  I agree with Gary, it sure seems to be a very nice, quality restoration. Again, for that price I wouldn't be surprised if it was a no sale. A couple of years ago I was seriously looking at a Cortez Silver X33 project on Ebay. I even went to Kansas City to look at the car. A couple of days later I called the guy to see if he would take an offer off Ebay and he said he was wanting a little more than my offer. He told me there was a local guy that was top bid at the time that was wanting the car badly. A couple of days later I watched it "sell" for about 7K more than my offer. I thought, well he did the right thing in letting the auction run out. About a year later the same seller that I had talked with had the car on Ebay again, this time however it was fully restored. He had either not sold the car and he or a buddy was the top bid or maybe the deal simply did not go through, I had asked him to call me if his Ebay deal fell through and I never heard back from him.
Maybe Clem can confirm the sale.
14  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: in case anyone is interested on: December 31, 2014, 11:10:54 PM
I sure would have thought that car would have went for more than that. Of course one never really knows how those deals on Ebay really turn out and if the sale is real or not.
15  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 45th anniversary of the first Z-28 on: December 31, 2014, 09:14:44 PM
Very cool Jon, I love that car!
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