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1  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 13, 2013, 02:58:38 PM
Speaking of the Bannerman AMX.  I have a photocopied proposal to build and run the car.  Its about a 12 page packet.

2  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 03:39:47 PM
Also for those counting.  If the Dewar car was from Kaplan and wasn't a team car like Kaplan says that makes 4 Javelins from 1969 that I know of.   At least 3 are known to survive although one is missing or was possibly burnt up in a fire.
3  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 03:31:33 PM
Did you just make this up about Kaplan calling Dewar?  It reads like fact which if you made it up you should probably caveat it as such.  

BTW the #4 Javelin driven by Lothar Motschenbacher came in 4th place at St Jovite.  The #3 Javelin driven by Ron Grable was crashed.  



According to Jon here, the #4 car was heavily damaged the weekend before at St Jovite 8/3/'69. That is why Ronnie called upon Gordon Dewar- #47 to come down to W G.

Steve
4  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 02:37:26 PM
More from Ronnie....   "It was not a team car.  If my memory is correct, I think it was one of several that were built as display or show cars.  At this point in time my memory is a bit confused about what was and what wasn’t.  I believe all the team cars are accounted for, but I can’t tell you which are where. "

I am not sure why there was only one team car at Watkins Glen but RKE fielded 2 cars the rest of the season.
5  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 01:18:25 PM
Straight from the source.....which is Ronnie Kaplan....just got an email from him.

"Yes. He bought a javelin and I later sold it for him.  At this time I can’t remember to who.
 
Ronnie"

6  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 01:05:21 PM
More Dewar/Kaplan connection.

The Ottawa Journal › 1971 › June › 11 June 1971 › Page 18

Gord Dewar of Ottawa given an excellent chance of finishing well in the race and of placing high in the" standings of the million dollar, 10-event Can-Am series. Dewar, is expected to do well in the March 707 that Chris Amon drove in the lat- ter part of the 1970 series. Sponsored by Travelmate Motor Homes, Dewar will give away a bit in power, dropping to a 427 cubic inch engine from the 494 used by Amon, but DeWar's crew chief, Ronnie Kaplan of Chicago, is a recognized genius with the 427 engine.
7  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
In 1986 Dewar was shot in the face but wasnt fatal.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2194&dat=19861001&id=z-M0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=VvUIAAAAIBAJ&pg=1383,120652
8  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
There is this.....

"Gordon Dewar from Ontario always had very nice cars. Here, he’s driving his Trans-Am Camaro in 1970. He had previously owned a factory Javelin that he had bought from Ronnie Kaplan."

The History of Trans-Am Racing at Le Circuit Mont Tremblant in St-Jovite, Quebec from 1967 to 1971

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9067.5;wap2

and this.......

I am a Canadian motorsport history writer looking to document some of the Canadian pony cars- Gord Dewar ran the third Javelin at several Trans Am in the 1969 year and supposedly returned the car to AMC at year's end where it was given to Penske. Some of these Cars went to the Grand American series but I don't have a source for the results. I note that you have a fairly decent listing of the Javelins results. Is there a source online that I could use to track the Canadian cars??

http://www.sandcastlevi.com/exit/guestb16.htm
 

9  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 10:15:20 AM
Looks like there are some RKE Javelins with 3 hood pins.  http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8328.0


10  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 07:57:05 AM
I see where this Dewar car still has the daisy wheels and the #4 RKE Javelin has minilites.  That Dewar car also has a hood pin in the middle of the hood which the RKE Javelins did not.  Although the 1969 NASCAR GT Javelin did have a middle hood pin.



Check the rear end caps and decklid on the 4 car:http://www.carcraft.com/thehistoryof/trans_am_racing_early_years/photo_06.html

Compare to the b & w pick where you can just make out some dark spots on the rear quarter end caps and decklid:

Steve
11  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 07:16:21 AM
Oddball Javelins with "Kaplan" parts.

http://www.catamountstadium.com/Images/DuBrul_Javelin_LooksatCar_FreePress_RPalmer.JPG

http://touringcarracing.net/Pages/p%201972%20Silverstone.html

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1970/Virginia-1970-04-26-021.jpg
12  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 12, 2013, 07:06:07 AM
I have seen more then one oddball Javelin with that bubble hood or flares and other "Kaplan" stuff.  He had to sell that stuff for AMC dealers when people came in and ordered it.  Maybe he just had his fiberglass guy send it direct.  But the rear deck lid spoilers could be ordered and I have seen one bubble hoop scoop in a brown Rambler bag with a part number on it.  So you could probably order that bubble hood too.

Just like the steel 290 rods that AMC never made yet I had 15 NOS ones in brown Rambler bags at one point.  They had to put part numbers on all of that stuff and then actually sell it if someone ordered it.

So I am guessing in 1969 if you wanted to run a Javelin in road racing events and went to the dealer for parts they pointed you to Kaplans race shop.  Its been a few years since I talked to John Martin but he told me they did work on customer stuff to keep the lights on since AMC was so stingy.

I also dont think each of the oddball Javelins were built from the ground up by Kaplans shop.

This car..... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3177576/1969-amc-javelin/  was a base Javelin that was shipped to Australia with a container full of race parts from Kaplans shop.  For years people thought Kaplan built this car and shipped to Australia but in reality the parts were sent with a factory passenger car that was built in Australia with the parts in the container.

13  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 11, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
You are correct.  Not sure what happened to my sentence when I was cutting and pasting.
14  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 11, 2013, 05:11:26 PM
Here is the scoop on Gordon Dewar.  He raced his Javelin with the "Quebec Region Championship Alitalia Class C".  

Not sure how many races he ran or what but that was his main race group back then.  Must have dropped down out of Canada for the Watkins Glen race.

It also looks like he was a driver for JNO Racing up in Canada.  So they probably owned the car.
15  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Racing AMX Information on: December 11, 2013, 04:48:50 PM
I am not sure what the big question concerning the Javelin is but here is what I know.

After the 1968 season, the number 3 car was retained by Kaplan for testing and was repainted with red, white and blue stripes. In 1969, the car was held over for the Michigan race and was driven by Bob Tullius to a 4th place finish at Michigan. The car was then sold to the Rocky Mountain race group and driven for the rest of the season by privateer Ron Hunter as the #10 car.

So all 4 1968 Javelins were at Michigan.  There were only 3 Javelins at the 1969 Watkins Glen Race.  A Kaplan Javelin, Ted Roberts, and Gordon Dewar.  http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/race.php?raceid=9334

#10 Javelin was Ron Hunter
http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/racelist2.php?uniqid=5266

#33 Javelin was Bob Tullius
http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/racelist2.php?uniqid=426

#47 Javelin was Gordon Dewar
http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/racelist2.php?uniqid=12340

#55 Javelin was Ted Roberts  
http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/racelist2.php?uniqid=12303
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