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526  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 04:44:23 PM
That is great footage of the Donnybrooke race.  I remember seeing that for the first time as a kid on a VHS Camaro retrospective back in the 80's.  Unfortunately it doesn't contain the first 4 minutes of the original film which can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr6U4_2PgPE  The film is titled wrong on Youtube.  It should say Trans Am 1969, not 1968. 

Anyway, I don't think the AMX pacing the 1969 Donnybrooke race is the same Jeffords AMX-R that paced the 1968 Meadowdale race.  According to the Hemmings article (link posted above), Jeffords donated the AMX-R to the Brooks Stevens Museum in 1969 where it sat unaltered until it's current owner bought it in 1985.  I believe that the AMX pacing the 1969 Donnybrooke Trans Am race is a stock 1969 AMX that had the rear window removed.  If you click on the link to the first 4 minutes of film, you will notice that at 2:56 you can see the rear of the AMX.  It shows no rumble seat, just a regular trunk lid.  A few seconds later, at 3:22 in the film, someone jumps into the back and goes along for the ride on the pace lap.  The 1968-1970 AMX had no back seat but it did have a shelf in the back directly under the rear window.  If you removed the window someone could sit back there and have the top half of their body sticking out, just like it shows in the video you posted.  This is just my two cents.  Maybe someone else did make another rumble seat AMX.  I'll keep researching.
527  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 13, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
I wasn't born until 1976 so I never got to see any races at Meadowdale either but I have ridden my mountain bike along the old ghost track.  A lot of the racing surface is still there.  They also have car shows where the participants cars are lined up on the old front strraight.  I to am happy that they were able to preserve the place. 

As for the other two tracks, I've been attending all the races at Road America since 1987 and have been to Blackhawk multiple times for their Fathers Day weekend vintage races.  Great places!
528  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 12:09:03 AM
I may have answered my own question on which AMX actually paced the race.  When I posted the picture of the red AMX at the front of the grid in another thread I created for the Meadowdale Trans Am, CRG member MO pointed out that the car had a rumble seat.  I hadn't noticed this before so I decided to do some research and found out that the car is a 1968 Jeffords AMX-R and is the only one ever built.  More info on the car can be found in this article: http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2009/11/01/hmn_feature7.html   
The article states that, "Jeffords convinced AMC to provide him with a pre-production Caravelle Blue 1968 AMX--its 390-cu.in. V-8 carries a December 1967 build date--sometime in December 1967 or January 1968. Jeffords then swiftly shuffled that AMX over to Dave Puhl, the customizer whose name graced Puhl's House of Kustoms in Palatine, Illinois."  This shop would have been less than 15 miles away from the racetrack!  The article also states that, "After Puhl finished it, Jeffords took the AMX-R on the road, mostly to Trans-Am races, and apparently used it as a pace car for a few of those races--at one point, the AMX-R carried the lettering "Official Car" just below the driver's and passenger's windows."  The use of the word "apparently" seems to mean that their is some doubt if the AMX-R actually paced a Trans Am race, so maybe this picture just might be the evidence needed to say that it did?  Does anyone have a picture of the actual pace lap?

In the second attached picture you can see the AMX-R behind the Trans Am Javelin.  This picture is from: http://miroldpix2.homestead.com/68transampage.html  The third picture is how the car looks today fully restored (internet picture).
529  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 11:11:25 PM
I like the AMX rumble seat Pacecar.

Good catch, I had not noticed that until you mentioned it.  As a result I went looking for info on the car.  I found out that it is a 1968 Jeffords AMX-R and it is the only one ever built.  More info on the car can be found in this article: http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2009/11/01/hmn_feature7.html   

The article states that, "Jeffords took the AMX-R on the road, mostly to Trans-Am races, and apparently used it as a pace car for a few of those races--at one point, the AMX-R carried the lettering "Official Car" just below the driver's and passenger's windows."  By using the word "apparently" it seems that there may have been some doubt that this car was used as a pace car for Trans Am races.  This picture just might prove that it did.

The attached pics show what it looks like today and they were found at: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5399930-My-photos-from-a-local-car-show-some-neat-stuff-inside-2011-Krasl-Concours&p=73136776
530  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 05:47:08 PM
Sorry if any of this is a repost.  I don't remember seeing any of these pics before.  I live in the southwest suburbs of Chicago and whats left of this track is located in the northwest suburbs of Chicago, so I have a particular interest in it.  Does anyone have any more pics of this race?
531  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 05:43:56 PM
Here is a picture of the cover of the program for the event.  I found this picture at: http://shop.driveabledreams.net/product.sc?productId=38
532  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 05:39:07 PM
Here are a few more pics of Camaros found at the site mentioned in my previous post.
533  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 05:36:22 PM
I also found some great photos of the Meadowdale Trans Am race at the Meadowdale International Raceway Preservation Association Facebook page.  Attached are some of the Camaro pics I found there but other pics of Firebirds, Mustangs, Javelins, Alphas, and Porsches can be seen on their photo page at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Meadowdale-International-Raceway-Preservation-Association/400782870695?sk=taggednotes#!/pages/Meadowdale-International-Raceway-Preservation-Association/400782870695?sk=photos (when you get to the photos page, scroll down to the photos added in 2010).  These photos were posted to their site by Ronald Spannraft.
534  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 05:18:12 PM
Not sure if anyone has seen the pictures of the 7th Trans Am race of the 1968 season held at Meadowdale International Raceway, Carpentersville, Illinois that appear on the Chicago Sports Car Clubs Memories of Meadowdale International Raceways web site.  Attached are some pics of the Penske Camaros I found at the site but you can see more pics of Javelins, the start of the race, and an advertising folder promoting the race at: http://miroldpix2.homestead.com/68transampage.html  The pics were taken and provided to the site by Mike Odell.
535  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: For All of You That Want to Own A Trans Am Race Car on: December 12, 2012, 04:53:25 PM
Robert,

My understanding is that the car sold for $48K but maybe somebody knows different. Below is a picture of the car from the late '70s when Cam Champion owned it. The second photo is from 1991 when an early style front end had been put back on the car.

If the 1st Hoffman car was painted blue with white stripes in 1991, then it must have been painted yellow by the next year because I took a picture of the car back in July 1992 during my annual trip to the Vintage Races at Road America.  You can see the Jeff Jacobs signature on the roof.
536  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 12, 2012, 03:08:34 PM
Here are a couple more interesting photos from the 1968 Trans Am race at Meadowdale.  The first one shows the row of 100 promotional Javelins that the previously posted article talks about.  The second one shows a stock AMX parked in front of the field on the grid.  Which one actually paced the race???  I found both of these photos on the Meadowdale International Raceway Preservation Association Facebook page.  They are dedicated to the memory of Meadowdale International Raceway: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Meadowdale-International-Raceway-Preservation-Association/400782870695?sk=taggednotes#!/pages/Meadowdale-International-Raceway-Preservation-Association/400782870695?sk=photos
537  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Rusty Jowett's 1968 Camaro Trans-Am Race Car on: December 12, 2012, 02:27:05 PM
Here is how the car looked back in July 1996 when I saw it during my annual visit to the Vintage races at Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin.
538  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 12, 2012, 01:39:16 PM
Here are a couple of interesting items.  This first is a photo of the 1968 AMC AMX that paced the Trans Am race on July 7, 1968 at Meadowdale International Raceway, Carpentersville, Illinois.  The second is an article about how AMC used the Pace Car and 100 replica Javeilns to promote their product.  I found both pics on the internet at: http://www.planethoustonamx.com/stuff/badger-javelin.htm  Interesting to note that the car is an AMX but it says JAVELIN in big letters on the side!
539  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 11, 2012, 04:26:53 PM
Here is a picture of the 1968 Shelby Mustang GT500KR convertible that was used as the pace car for the Bryar 200 Trans Am race held on August 4, 1968 at Bryar Motorsport Speedway in Loudon, New Hampshire.  I found the picture somewhere on the internet (possibly on this forum).  I'm no Shelby expert but I would think that a yellow GT500KR convertible has got to be pretty rare.  I wonder if this car survives?
540  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 11, 2012, 10:42:14 AM
Here is a picture of the same 1969 Camaro SS convertible that paced the 1969 Trans Am race at Laguna Seca.  You can see it parked on pit lane while Mark Donohue flashes by the checkered flag.  I found this picture on page 154 of "Trans-Am: The Pony Car Wars 1966-1972" by Dave Friedman.  The last pic is a closeup of this same picture.
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