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526  Model Specific Discussions / Foreign Camaros / Swiss Assembled 1969 Camaro on Carsinbarns.com on: December 14, 2012, 04:01:38 PM
I was looking through the recent additions on Carsinbarns.com and came across these three pics of a Swiss assembled Camaro in a dilapidated condition over in Germany.  They were sent in by Daniel from Germany and his remarks about the car include:

"Yes, they can also be found over here in Germany! This is an original 69 Camaro SS that was put together in Bienne, Switzerland when new. Original white 350 auto car with black stripes on the side. The pictures show its sad condition. The car was parked 10 years ago. It was a customers car and was just left there in the fields near a barn behind a shop. What I believe to be its original drivetrain is lying in the grass about 10 feet next to the car. I tried to buy the car to save what's left of it but it's the typical story. The mechanic cant find the papers for the car and the original owner of the car never returned to pick it up as you can see. But I'm trying to find a way to save this piece of American Muscle Car History." 

I don't know much about these cars but I thought this might be of interest to those interested in foreign Camaros.  The original post from October 25, 2012 can be seen here: http://www.carsinbarns.com/new180.html
527  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 10:51:37 PM
Great research, posts and links SMKZ28. I'm glad that my observation helped you. That's a neat picture of the AMX-R. I have always liked that car.

Thanks MO.  I live for this kind of stuff.
528  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 10:48:43 PM
Here is a photo of the 1968 Mercury Cougar paceing the field during the pace lap of the Lime Rock 3-Hour race Trans Am race at Lime Rock Park, Lime Rock, Connecticut on May 30, 1968.  The photo came from this site: http://public.fotki.com/gwadagone/trans-am-racing1966/
529  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:51:06 PM
Here are some photos of the 1971 Chevy Corvette Roadster used as the pace car for both of the Trans Am races at Watkins Glen Grand Prix Course, Watkins Glen, New York on August 15, 1971.  Again, I don't know where I found these pics on the internet.  I lost my list that told me this info.  If these are your photos please identify yourself for credit.
530  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:42:41 PM
Here is a picture of the 1971 Ford Mustang used as the pace car for the Trans Am race at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Lexington, Ohio on June 6, 1971.  It looks to be a convertible with the top up due to the rainy weather.  I think I found this picture somewhere on this web site.
531  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:38:38 PM
Here is another picture of the 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T convertible that paced the 1970 Road America Trans Am race.
532  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:22:27 PM
It seems that purple 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T convertibles were the pace cars to have during the 1970 Trans Am series.  Here is a photo of the back of the pace car for the Trans Am race at Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin held on July 19, 1970.  This car is different from the pace car at Donnybrooke by having wheel covers and the white rear stripe.  Again, I don't know where I found these pics on the internet.  I lost my list that told me this info.  If these are your photos please identify yourself for credit.
533  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:13:52 PM
Here is one more photo of the 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T convertible that paced the 1970 Donnybrooke Trans Am race.
534  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:13:06 PM
Here is another photo of the 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T convertible that paced the 1970 Donnybrooke Trans Am race.
535  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 08:10:26 PM
Here are some photos of the 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T convertible that paced the Trans Am race held at Donnybrooke International Speedway, Brainerd, Minnesotta on July 5, 1970.  Unfortunately I don't know where I found these pics on the internet.  I lost my list that told me this info.  If these are your photos please identify yourself for credit.
536  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
Here is another pic of the 1969 AMX that paced the 1969 Donnybrooke Trans Am race.  Unfortunately, it does not show the back either.  It came from a thread on this web site.
537  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 04:44:23 PM
That is great footage of the Donnybrooke race.  I remember seeing that for the first time as a kid on a VHS Camaro retrospective back in the 80's.  Unfortunately it doesn't contain the first 4 minutes of the original film which can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr6U4_2PgPE  The film is titled wrong on Youtube.  It should say Trans Am 1969, not 1968. 

Anyway, I don't think the AMX pacing the 1969 Donnybrooke race is the same Jeffords AMX-R that paced the 1968 Meadowdale race.  According to the Hemmings article (link posted above), Jeffords donated the AMX-R to the Brooks Stevens Museum in 1969 where it sat unaltered until it's current owner bought it in 1985.  I believe that the AMX pacing the 1969 Donnybrooke Trans Am race is a stock 1969 AMX that had the rear window removed.  If you click on the link to the first 4 minutes of film, you will notice that at 2:56 you can see the rear of the AMX.  It shows no rumble seat, just a regular trunk lid.  A few seconds later, at 3:22 in the film, someone jumps into the back and goes along for the ride on the pace lap.  The 1968-1970 AMX had no back seat but it did have a shelf in the back directly under the rear window.  If you removed the window someone could sit back there and have the top half of their body sticking out, just like it shows in the video you posted.  This is just my two cents.  Maybe someone else did make another rumble seat AMX.  I'll keep researching.
538  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 13, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
I wasn't born until 1976 so I never got to see any races at Meadowdale either but I have ridden my mountain bike along the old ghost track.  A lot of the racing surface is still there.  They also have car shows where the participants cars are lined up on the old front strraight.  I to am happy that they were able to preserve the place. 

As for the other two tracks, I've been attending all the races at Road America since 1987 and have been to Blackhawk multiple times for their Fathers Day weekend vintage races.  Great places!
539  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: December 13, 2012, 12:09:03 AM
I may have answered my own question on which AMX actually paced the race.  When I posted the picture of the red AMX at the front of the grid in another thread I created for the Meadowdale Trans Am, CRG member MO pointed out that the car had a rumble seat.  I hadn't noticed this before so I decided to do some research and found out that the car is a 1968 Jeffords AMX-R and is the only one ever built.  More info on the car can be found in this article: http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2009/11/01/hmn_feature7.html   
The article states that, "Jeffords convinced AMC to provide him with a pre-production Caravelle Blue 1968 AMX--its 390-cu.in. V-8 carries a December 1967 build date--sometime in December 1967 or January 1968. Jeffords then swiftly shuffled that AMX over to Dave Puhl, the customizer whose name graced Puhl's House of Kustoms in Palatine, Illinois."  This shop would have been less than 15 miles away from the racetrack!  The article also states that, "After Puhl finished it, Jeffords took the AMX-R on the road, mostly to Trans-Am races, and apparently used it as a pace car for a few of those races--at one point, the AMX-R carried the lettering "Official Car" just below the driver's and passenger's windows."  The use of the word "apparently" seems to mean that their is some doubt if the AMX-R actually paced a Trans Am race, so maybe this picture just might be the evidence needed to say that it did?  Does anyone have a picture of the actual pace lap?

In the second attached picture you can see the AMX-R behind the Trans Am Javelin.  This picture is from: http://miroldpix2.homestead.com/68transampage.html  The third picture is how the car looks today fully restored (internet picture).
540  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: 1968 Trans Am No. 7 Meadowdale International Raceway (July 7, 1968) on: December 12, 2012, 11:11:25 PM
I like the AMX rumble seat Pacecar.

Good catch, I had not noticed that until you mentioned it.  As a result I went looking for info on the car.  I found out that it is a 1968 Jeffords AMX-R and it is the only one ever built.  More info on the car can be found in this article: http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2009/11/01/hmn_feature7.html   

The article states that, "Jeffords took the AMX-R on the road, mostly to Trans-Am races, and apparently used it as a pace car for a few of those races--at one point, the AMX-R carried the lettering "Official Car" just below the driver's and passenger's windows."  By using the word "apparently" it seems that there may have been some doubt that this car was used as a pace car for Trans Am races.  This picture just might prove that it did.

The attached pics show what it looks like today and they were found at: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5399930-My-photos-from-a-local-car-show-some-neat-stuff-inside-2011-Krasl-Concours&p=73136776
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