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436  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: March 02, 2013, 02:54:02 PM
I found this picture on this website on the thread entitled, "1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am photos" (http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8485.0)  It was taken by Ron Lathrop and it shows the pace lap for the Trans Am race that took place at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Lexington, Ohio on June 8, 1969.  You can barely see the back of a 1969 Mustang convertible that was used to pace the race.

The second picture shows the front of a mustang in the pits during the Can Am race held at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course a few months later on August 17, 1969.  I think they used this 1969 Mustang convertible to pace all the races held at Mid Ohio during the 1969 race season.  You can see it in the background on the right side of the picture.  People are standing all around it.  The picture was taken by Dave Friedman and is part of The Dave Friedman Collection at The Henry Ford.  A larger and clearer version can be seen here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=118852&productTypeID=62&ckon=imageThumb  Click on the picture to magnify.

The third picture shows Denny Hulme and Stirling Moss inside the 1969 Mustang after Denny won the race in his Chevy powered McLaren M8B.  It was also taken by Dave Friedman and is part of The Dave Friedman Collection at The Henry Ford.  A larger and clearer version can be seen here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=118643&productTypeID=62&ckon=imageThumb  Click on picture to magnify.
437  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 24, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
Here is a picture showing the pace lap for the last race of the 1970 Trans Am season.  The picture shows that a 1971 AMC javelin was used to pace the Mission Bell 200 at Riverside International Raceway, Riverside, California on October 4, 1970.  Interestingly, the car looks like it was just a Javelin SST not the top of the line Javelin AMX as raced in the Trans Am.  I found the picture on a thread about the 1970 Trans Am Championship here: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?218-1970-Trans-Am-Championship   It was posted by Steve Holmes.
438  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 24, 2013, 11:02:59 AM
Here is a fabulous picture taken by Dave Friedman that shows a 1969 Camaro RS/SS Indy Pace Car convertible pacing the Trans Am cars during a caution period in Les Trois Heures du Circuit at Le Circuit Mont-Tremblant, St. Jovite, Quebec, Canada on August 3, 1969.  The picture is part of the Dave Friedman Collection at The Henry Ford.  A larger and clearer version can be seen here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=158732&productTypeID=62&ckon=imageThumb   Click on the picture to magnify.

The same car also paced the Labatt's 50 Can Am race at the same track a month and a half earlier on June 15, 1969.  The second and third pictures are from the Can Am race and they are also from the Dave Friedman Collection at The Henry Ford.   Larger and clearer versions of these pictures can be seen here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=157443&productTypeID=62&ckon=imageThumb
and here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=157330&productTypeID=62&ckon=imageThumb  Click on picture to magnify.

The third picture shows that the decal on the door was changed by removing the "Chevrolet Camaro" from the top of the door and the "53rd Annual Indianapolis 500 Mile Race May 30, 1969" from the bottom of the door.  They kept the "Official Pace Car" in the middle of the door and added "Le Circuit Mt. Tremblent" above it.  That is Denny Hulme sitting in the car with the checkered flag.  He won the Can Am race in his Chevy powered McLaren M8B.  You can also see Stirling Moss getting in the passenger seat. He is an ex-racecar driver and he drove both the 1967 Cherokee Camaro pace car during the Can Am race at Road America in 1967 and the 1968 Camaro Z28 convertible pace car during the Can Am race at Road America in 1968. He might also have driven this car during the pace laps, although I don't have any pictoral evidence to confirm it.

439  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 18, 2013, 02:58:30 PM
I have finally figured out what kind of pace car was used during the Schaefer Trans Am race at Lime Rock Park, Lime Rock, Connecticut on May 9, 1970.  It was a 1970 Iso Rivolta.  The car combined Italian styling with a Chevy Corvette 327 engine.  Less than 800 were made between 1962 and 1970.  According to classicandperformancecar.com, "the Rivolta was an example of the Italo-American breed that proved popular during the 1960s and ‘70s and which allowed drivers to sample Ferrari-style glamour and performance without the price. The Rivolta had all the credentials to deliver the goods: Giugiaro styling; Bizzarini chassis and a 140mph top speed from its General Motors-sourced V8. Under the skin its box-section frame with de Dion rear suspension was a recipe for success, and indeed, the Rivolta sold nearly 800 examples during its eight-year production run."

More info on the car can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso_Rivolta_IR_300

The first picture was taken by Dave Friedman and it is part of the Dave Friedman Collection at The Henry Ford.  A larger and clearer version can be seen here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/options.pl?imageID=114876&productTypeID=62&ckon=imageThumb   Click on the picture to magnify. 

The second picture came from footage of the race found on Youtube.  I took a digital picture while it was paused.  You can see the car in the pits and on the pace lap from 3:24 to 3:50 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYnGb4fcn9w&feature=youtu.be  The first couple of minutes shows footage from the 1972 Trans Am race at Lime Rock but then the rest of the film is from 1970.

 
440  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 17, 2013, 01:27:51 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of the 1970 Mustang convertible that pace the 1970 Trans Am race at Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Lexington, Ohio on June 7, 1970.  I paused some footage of the race and took these digital pictures.  You can find the footag on Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kfK2Wj1WwE&feature=youtu.be  You can see the pace lap between 0:20 and 0:57.   

Jon Mello posted a black and white picture of the same car on the first page of this thread.
441  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 15, 2013, 09:31:12 PM
Here is a picture of the 1967 Mustang convertible that was used to pace the Continental Divide Trans Am at Continental Divide Raceways, Castle Rock, Colorado on August 27, 1967.  The picture appears on page 50 of the book entitled, "Trans Am: The Pony Car Wars, 1966-1972," by Dave Friedman and is credited to the HRM Archives, which stands for Hot Rod Magazine Archives.  I photographed the picture with my digital camera.
442  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 15, 2013, 05:36:20 PM
In this photo you can just see the back of the light blue 1968 Mercury Cougar that paced the field during the Lime Rock 3-Hour Trans Am race at Lime Rock Park, Lime Rock, Connecticut on May 30, 1968.   Don Feeley posted it on the Historic SCCA Pro Racing Trans-Am Series Fan Group Facebook page: http://www.hs.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.109038482465812&page=1.   To see a picture of the whole car pacing the field, see my post on the 4th page of this thread.
443  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Trans Am racing pace car pics...are there any? on: February 11, 2013, 02:56:29 PM
Great photos Jon.  I noticed that the second photo was in the program for the 1968 Daytona 24 hours.  Where did the ad for Spence Chevy come from?  Was it a local newspaper?
444  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 16, 2013, 09:56:46 AM
smkz28

thanks for those shots of camaros at daytona. didn't mean to sidetrack the thread into chaparral camaros, but there is a link to "mo" carter.  the chaparral team is my passion. post #11 of the yunick camaro is interesting in that in the top left corner you can just see jim hall. one doesn't see too many pictures of this car at daytona & sebring. I read somewhere that hall did do a couple of laps in the car.

mike


No problem Mike.  I love the Chaparral Camaro but I also love the other cars Hall built.  Several years ago Jim Hall and his cars were the featured guest/marque at the vintage races up at Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin.  A few of his sports racers and can am cars did a few flying laps around the track by themselves.  I think this was one of the first times in years that they had been taken out of his museum and driven.  It was retty cool!

As for the Yunick Camaro pictures, this is why I posted this stuff.  I don't remember ever seeing these pictures either and thought others would be interested.  I believe you are correct that he did do a few laps in the car to test before it was denied by the race officials.  I'll look for the thread that deals with this car and add these pics there.

I'll check out the Mo Carter thread for more info on that car.

Scott
445  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 16, 2013, 09:55:36 AM
SMK..  you can satisfy some of the people.. some of the time..  but it's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time.  Personally, I enjoy seeing the photos even if I don't know the driver/race/etc..  Smiley
Gary

Thanks Gary, that's the feeling I've gotten from 99% of the responders to my other posts/threads.  Even though I was pissed yesterday when I posted my response, I'm not going to let one bad apple spoil the bunch so to speak.  If the attitude that was expressed to me earlier in this thread was shared by everyone then not a single bit of new information would have ever been posted on this website.  One person would have to do all the research on a particular subject and no one else would be able to comment on that subject because they would not have the knowledge on that subject since they didn't do the work.  I find that to be such a stupid notion on a web site that prides itself on finding and sharing new information.  I'm glad to see that not everyone feels that way. 

Scott
446  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 15, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
Hey, finding a bunch of old photos is the easy part.  Trying to track down car numbers, figuring out which event, which driver and tracing the history takes talent and lots of time. Try it some time.


Cuda48,
Why so negative.  What the hell did I do to you.  I have the searching talent.  I am an archivist/historian.  I know how to research.  I do things like this all the time.  I was searching for info on another subject when I came across these images and thought that people might be interested in them here.  I don't have all the answers and I'm sure you don't either.  Bringing things up and asking questions of others is how information is shared.  If this is the way I'm going to be treated then I'll think twice the next time I come across something relevent, or maybe I should check with you first to see if its ok to post something.  I don't need to deal with this kind of treatment for just trying to participate in this forum. 
447  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 15, 2013, 12:28:24 AM
That white and orange Camaro #56 is driven by Craig Carter, not Mo Carter. I think it may be owned currently by John Hildebrand and it is currently dark blue with yellow lettering.

The white #11 '69 Camaro at Daytona in 1970 looks to be the Larry Bock/Larry Drover car raced in Trans-Am that year.

The white with red sided Camaro following the red, white & blue Corvette appears to be the John Elliott car raced in Trans-Am
with sponsorship from Preston Hood Chevrolet in Fort Walton Beach, FL.

Thanks for the info Jon.  I noticed the "Craig Carter" on the door after I posted the pic but you beat me to the punch.
448  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 14, 2013, 04:32:32 PM
The Carter camaro would be one of the ex Jim Hall 1970 T/A camaros which Mo purchased to run in the 71 and 72 seasons - was upgraded with big block engine etc for 73.  He ran  both IMSA and T/A.  My understanding is the car was wrecked in a
Mosport testing accident and parted out maybe in 76/77.  He then commissioned Brad Francis to build an IMSA  AAGT class tube frame camaro to race.



Thanks for the great info.  Too bad it didn't survive.  Could this be the same car or is this the tube frame car?  Either way it's interesting to note that it has the early 2nd Generation Camaro front end on it.  The pictures were taken by R. Allen Olmstead at the 1977 Watkins Glen 6 hour race.  I found them here: http://www.botchagaloop.net/
449  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 13, 2013, 08:01:37 PM
Here is the Yunick car at the 1968 Daytona 24 hours.  I found it at Getty Images.  The caption states, "DAYTONA BEACH, FL — February 1968: Car owner Henry “Smokey” Yunick brought this 1968 Camaro to Daytona International Speedway for the 24 Hours of Daytona and hired superstars Bruce McLaren and Jim Hall to do the driving. The car did not run in the race, as inspectors came up with a list of 27 “infractions,” including an acid-dipped body and Lexan windows, and the car was ultimately disqualified from competition. (Photo by ISC Images & Archives via Getty Images)."  More info can be seen here: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/february-1968-car-owner-henry-smokey-yunick-brought-this-news-photo/150003617
450  Model Specific Discussions / Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Are these ex-Trans Am Camaros racing at multiple Daytona 24 hour races? on: January 13, 2013, 07:45:37 PM
I know this isn't the 24 hours but it is a Paul Revere 250 race at Daytona.  Is this the gold and black Yunick Trans Am Camaro?  I found this picture at Getty Images.  The caption states, "DAYTONA BEACH, FL - JULY 1968: Bobby Unser poses with Smokey YunickÕs Chevrolet Camaro that he drove in the Paul Revere 250 at Daytona International Speedway. The car caught fire during the race and Unser was relegated to a 22nd-place finish. (Photo by ISC Images & Archives via Getty Images)"  More info can be seen here: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/bobby-unser-poses-with-smokey-yunick%c3%b5s-chevrolet-camaro-news-photo/106763144

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