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6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Just bought a all original 67 convertible with a 6

« on: May 08, 2014, 03:31:51 AM »

Sorry for the very late reply, but I've noticed that the 6 cyl topics can stretch for months (not many 6 cyl guys around). I think your '67 conv. is amazing...230 with a 3-on-the-tree, and is it Royal Purple?! What a find, and probably a true one-of-a-kind! I would restore it (or at least straighten the bent front sheet matel and replace the grill). I think it looks great with its original 14x5 wheels and full hubcaps. What is the data from its cowl tag?

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6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Slowly starting the 6 cylinder RS build from Hell

« on: May 08, 2014, 03:23:34 AM »

Ko-lek-tor...I'm in Columbus, OH...very close to Marion. If you have his number I will give him a call (or I can contact him through here...people are sometimes funny about their privacy). I'm Alex and have been involved with 1st Gen Camaros since the early '80s. I graduated HS in 1975 and have owned many GTOs (all of them Iowa rust buckets...all purchased between $125 to $1,200), a '70 Boss 302 Mustang (purchased for $1,600 in 1976), a '68 SS396 Chevelle purchased for $800, a '67 RS bought in Socal in 1980 for $1,200 (327/275 with a 4-speed and posi rear), a '69 Trans Am purchased for $500 in Tijuana, Mex in '80 (read my article and see the pictures at the Texastransams.com website), a '68 RS (also 327/275 4-speed) purchased for $1,800 in Socal in'82 (wrecked it one rainy night after too many beers), and many other interesting cars over the years (incl. a survivor '72 Datsun 240Z that I sold 2 years ago). One of the best cars was a '72 Nova 4-door with a 250 six and 3-speed on the column...very entertaining and cheap to drive. I'm now 56 and just looking for something fun to build (and off-the-wall). After selling the 240Z in 2012 (I never quite got into it to the depth I needed...it just didn't move my soul), I got the itch to build a 1st Gen Camaro...most of them with very high price tags and seriously "messed with" (my fiancee was pregnant at the time and I knew I needed something that seated more than 2 people). I have owned some very original survivor cars over the years and found that they attract the most attention and appreciation at shows (and are usually the best drivers...I don't need to go 140 mph anymore, and like getting good gas mileage while I'm cruising around. The '68 RS was found on CL in Hartford, CT for $1,600 (cheap due to rust issues...everyone else saw it and walked away). I realized it was probably a one-of-a-kind, and saw that it came with its numbers-match drivetrain and some early paperwork (P-O-P and dealer order form) and snapped it up. It will take at least 4-5 years to resurrect it, but it'll be a great car to take to shows and cruise around in. I have a son who is 16 months-old (note months, not years!), and he will help Daddy work on it. As I said in an earlier post, my intention is to build it 100% correct. The larger welding work will go to a good body guy I recently discovered, and some of the small wedling will be done by me (90 amp wire-feed welder from Harbor Freight). I will also do the prep and paint with single-stage urethane (probably PPG Imron) since it is less labor intensive than base-coat, clear-coat (and less shiny...looks closer to the Magic-mirror finishes GM applied on these cars originally). The brake and fuel lines will come from the Right Stuff (run in the Columbus area by a great Camaro guy I have known for years...Dave Roberts). The single exhaust will come from Waldron's (not sure where they are, but they produce correct 6 cyl stuff). I plan on using only correct GM bolts and correct paint and finishes on everything. Yes...you're right that this site seems more in tune with 100% correct restorations than TC (no hit on them as there are many fine guys over there). Kurt S seems to be affiliated with both sites, but probably much closer to this site (his research papers are all posted on this site). I'm looking forward to finally getting the body's bad metal replaced and getting components rebuilt (the car still has its original alternator, starter, distributor, and carb). Looking forward to sharing my love of old Camaros on here and learning a thing or two about doing one the right way. Greetings to all here...

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6-cylinder Camaros / Re: Slowly starting the 6 cylinder RS build from Hell

« on: May 07, 2014, 09:45:59 PM »

Ko-lek-tor...I didn't realize I hadn't completed my profile. I'm used to the Camaros.net site where it shows on your post where you're from. I will update it on here ASAP. This site seems to get less traffic, but I like the fact that there is a small piece of it devoted to 6 cylinders (even though there is almost no commentary on 6 cyl cars). My plan is to do a complete nut and bolt resto on it (including the goofy column shifter), right down to the metal dealer trunk emblem and bias ply repop Coker 7.35 x 14 tires. I will try to post pics soon...this car is a real oddball.

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6-cylinder Camaros / Re: L6 starters

« on: May 07, 2014, 01:33:35 PM »

My '68 RS with a 230 and 3-speed manual has an 1108365, and the build date is "8A" (the day portion was never stamped...laziness maybe?). The car was built 02D. Thanks for all of the research you have done, Kurt. Are you still in Costa Rica?

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6-cylinder Camaros / Slowly starting the 6 cylinder RS build from Hell

« on: May 07, 2014, 01:18:20 PM »

Hey Guys...been off here for about 6 months and almost sold my rusty '68 RS after buying a V8 Vega. I have now come to my senses and will get rid of the Vega to concentrate on the RS. Back in Nov, I posted that I was upgrading my 230 to a 250. The engine casting number is 3921968 and it was cast on 022 8...the P-O-P engine number is F0223BA (230 six). The project so far has been acquiring parts...I now have orig GM quarters for it ($1,800 on CL in OH), a complete floor and rockers from a '68 Firebird from AZ ($1,000 on CL plus $500 shipping to OH), rust-free RS fenders from NM ($350 on CL...shipping to OH was almost $300), a complete and nearly perfect original black standard interior (found on CL here in OH for $500...door panels, buckets, and rear seat), nice FC coded wheels ($200 on CL), decent '68 drum brake subframe ($200 on CL in OH), an NOS 7.35 x 14 Firestone Deluxe Champion spare from a rusty '68 Chevelle being parted out in MI ($150), and a spare 250 from a '68 Nova ($250 on CL in TN...it will cough up its crank, rods, and pistons for the 230...the nice little-old-lady 4-door Nova was being parted out to provide parts for a pro street '69). I have been buying NOS 6 cylinder parts on Ebay for next to nothing...AC fuel pump ($25), GM muffler ($40), AC dist caps ($5 to $10), front drums for $10 apiece, and a drum brake master cylinder for $45 (it's great when no one else wants the stuff you want . My RS will go back to its original Tripoli Turquoise, column shift, radio delete (there is no hole for an antenna punched in the right front fender, and there is no code for a radio on the P-O-P...the codes line on the P-O-P is completely blank), with dog dish hubcaps...probably the strangest (and cheapest) '68 RS ever built. I will post photos on here if I can figure out an easy way to reduce the size of my photos.

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6-cylinder Camaros / Re: 6 cylinder spring stickers

« on: July 11, 2013, 12:17:38 PM »

Paul...I will open a new post with "6 cyl RS" in the title. I'm at work this morning (not much "work" getting done , and can post more photos later.

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6-cylinder Camaros / Upgrading a 230 to a 250

« on: July 10, 2013, 08:14:10 PM »

It's slow here on the drive-thru window right now, so I figured I'd post another topic...maybe we can get the "6 Cylinder" page 1 (BTW, the ONLY page) to increment to page 2! I have a woeful lack of knowledge about 6 cylinder Chevys and am curious if anyone on here has upgraded their 230 to a 250 (the so-called "mountain motor 6"). It appears the only thing necessary to accomplish this is swapping the crank and rods...is this so...are the pistons the same? And if anyone has done this, was there much of a difference in performance? The original owner of my car was a then 46 yr-old divorced woman who wanted her new Camaro to LOOK exciting, but not ACT exciting. She ordered it in Tripoli Turquoise with the RS option and a D90 sport stripe. Oh wait, a car just pulled up to the drive-thru window...

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6-cylinder Camaros / 6 cylinder spring stickers

« on: July 10, 2013, 08:03:15 PM »

Hey Guys...I'm looking for a "YU" sticker for the front springs on my '68 RS (non-A/C, plain jane). The assembly manual shows this is the correct sticker for the front spring, and that the "BX" sticker is correct for the rear monoleaf (many other '68s, incl V8s, used this spring). Many vendors have the BX (it can be found on Ebay), but I haven't been able to locate the elusive YU (some people have asked me "Y U lookin'?"...sorry, I couldn't resist). I'm gathering parts right now for the rebuild of my rusty wreck. If anyone is interested I'll post photos of the sorry car I'm working with.

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Originality / Re: Dusk Blue Z on ebay 06/20/13

« on: July 09, 2013, 06:21:54 PM »

PS..no cowl tag, engine or trans stamp photos. You guys are pretty sharp at spotting fakes of all of those, eh?

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Originality / Re: Dusk Blue Z on ebay 06/20/13

« on: July 09, 2013, 06:17:46 PM »

Another red flag...promo items for this Z are all from Reilly Chevrolet in Suebenville, OH (now closed dealer). Many items from Reilly have been sold on Ebay in the last few months (someone apparently bought out the dealer's stock sometime in the past), so I would be wary of buying a car that was supposedly sold at that dealer. Also, the documents bag is a repop, not orig, and the documents appear too new. Also, the D80 chalk mark on the firewall allears to be phony. Aside from these items (and the aforementioned dozens of red flag items), I'm ready to get out my checkbook .

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Research Topics & Reports / Re: Research help needed, 68 front drum style, finned vs unfinned

« on: July 07, 2013, 12:58:09 PM »

My '68 RS was built 02D, 230 six with 3 speed manual. Non-finned drums front and rear. This is my first post on here...moving here from the Team Camaro website because I'm more of a purist. Is there a forum regarding glass?