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General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available

« on: May 05, 2014, 10:44:33 PM »

Richard - since the data base is just a little over 7 million,  it is not quite as obvious as you might think. When we realized the hole existed and it was the size it is we posted it on line, don't know what else to tell you. this database is sorted by last six of the vin, so there are multiple units for each number the missing data is not obvious or we would have picked up on it sooner.

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General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available

« on: May 05, 2014, 02:40:07 AM »

Will we receive an email notification of when our data is shipped out?  Would like to know when to expect the letter or package is in the mail.     Thanks, Darrell

yes you wil receive an email confirming your docuemtn has been mailed, if a refund is issued you will receive an email conifmring that also.

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General Discussion / Re: Original dealer info for 1st gens is available

« on: May 05, 2014, 02:37:46 AM »

Hello everyone, is this the same database as NICB?

I can only tell that there have been some conflicts between the two results. In other words what we have has produced different results on several occasions than what someone already had from the NICB.

Two things in this respect I'm told on good authority the NICB files are no longer researchable with out case numbers. Our research indicates the GM records contain more data than what we have seen from the NICB files..

From NCRS

"We are missing the following data:
1969 Camaro 9N508855 to 9N587275
1970 Chevelle made in Atlanta, Seventh digit would be A.
NCRS does not anticipate nor have we been authorized to offer any additional GM brand information.
So from Sept 68 to end of Jan 69 NOR is missing. "

This is going to throw my request out - my Camaro falls in this range. What now ? Do I get refunded, or do I switch my VIN request to the next one I need ?
 
 Yes, when the order is processed you will receive a refund. Because the data is missing does not mean it will not be found! You can assume that if we find it we will take the note regarding it being missing down, we are in the prices of having the firm that digitizes the data for us look for the missing information. Hopefully it was jugs a clerical error in conversion.
 

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 02, 2014, 01:54:40 PM »

Hello everyone, is this the same database as NICB?

I can only tell that there have been some conflicts between the two results. In other words what we have has produced different results on several occasions than what someone already had from the NICB.

Two things in this respect I'm told on good authority the NICB files are no longer researchable with out case numbers. Our research indicates the GM records contain more data than what we have seen from the NICB files..

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 02, 2014, 01:46:11 PM »

guys be patient the roll out will be a big task on our end, but hopefully we will have no major glitches.

Roy, would it help if we waited a month or so to order?

Paul

At this pint waiting wont get it any quicker there are many in queue we will process them as expediently as possible.  For the start up we are dedicating more time to the process than we will in several months, so the turnaround will be about the same.

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 02, 2014, 01:37:00 PM »

Let me put this fire out before it gets started.  Sometimes words get lost in translation.  The dealer database which is linked to the wording in the order process is not what we use. That data base as it explains is hobbyist created, it does provide some invaluable information and we suggest that you input your data when you receive it, but it is not maintained by NCRS it is hobbyist created, therefore not all information in it can be documented or supported. The data you get will come from the GM file. Not the aniline database.

Roy, I apologise unreservedly if I misunderstood the wording of the email confirmation note, and caused any offence in the process. I had understood it to mean that NCRS got the dealer code from the GM records, but that the decoding of that code into a dealer name and address came from the database that was compiled from owner-provided details. Having re-read the wording, I understand the intent, that the database is not maintained by NCRS but that we can assist in it's accuracy by providing the info that our report, based on contemporary GM data, provides.
Thank you for clarifying, and once again, sorry for my confusion. This is a great service that is very much appreciated.

No apologies necessary or required. I just want everyone to understand, the online database referred to in the email which is located on the NCRS web site, has nothing to do with this service. That database is hobbyist generated and the input is not verified prior to entry, you can take the data we give you and update the database if you wish. The Shipping Data Service provided by NCRS uses only GM records from GM and if holes exist in the GM records we do not use the database to fill the holes, simply because the holes are unconfirmed by GM and if or when we are able to confirm a missing dealer through our ongoing research one it will no longer be a hole in the GM records...

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 02, 2014, 03:01:42 AM »

Does that mean if the hobbyists don't have your dealer in the database it will just be a number, on the report you get from them? Sorry just trying to understand the relationship of who has what information

It means that we use GM records not the online database. There will be an occasional deler number and zone we cant read because of missing or damaged microfiche.  There will be an occasional dealer name missing or that we cant read. We have found over 90% in our Corvette research. 

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 02, 2014, 01:03:24 AM »

Let me put this fire out before it gets started.  Sometimes words get lost in translation.  The dealer database which is linked to the wording in the order process is not what we use. That data base as it explains is hobbyist created, it does provide some invaluable information and we suggest that you input your data when you receive it, but it is not maintained by NCRS it is hobbyist created, therefore not all information in it can be documented or supported. The data you get will come from the GM file. Not the aniline database.

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 01, 2014, 02:35:25 PM »

I hope the first of you guys to get the report back, will please post pics of what is provided, so the rest of us will see it nice and clear.
Thanks in advance!

The shipping data report will be a document very similar to that sown in post #40 of this thread.

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: May 01, 2014, 12:56:38 PM »

guys be patient the roll out will be a big task on our end, but hopefully we will have no major glitches.

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: April 29, 2014, 08:38:12 PM »

  May 1st is the roll out, you guys be patient here this thing may be overwhelming initially and we may need some time to get caught up. If it flows like it has with the corvette we hope to work into a two to three week turnaround and as with the corvette if that happens and there is need for an expedited service we may expand the service to offer that, initially we just need to get our feet wet and see where it goes. 

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: April 01, 2014, 12:31:39 PM »

Guys, This project is much more complicated for us than the Corvette roll out was. we were fortunate in dealing with Corvette it was a captive audience, read members only,  so we had all of the contact information and did not have to capture that data it in the order process. It was a simple matter of replying to a profile that was established in our database.

We do not have your addresses and contact information, so we had to create that bridge. 

The more serious issue is the number of production plant facilities that this service encompasses. In the Corvette world we dealt with one plant St. Louis, filtered out the different models that were not Corvette and were ready to go, its not near that simple here.

We have multiple plants, multiple models

We are making progress and while the roll out has been delayed it is going to occur, again the date has been moved to May 1, 2014

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: March 31, 2014, 08:56:23 PM »

I can tell you we have moved the target roll out date to May 1st.

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: January 31, 2014, 03:26:05 AM »

That would probably depend on what you define as special. A car ordered by an executive through the normal new car purchase program would most likely show up as a zone and dealer with the dealer name. Cars for some executives probably went through the zone offices in which case threy show up as the zone office orders. Some of Mr Earl's styling cars show up as GM shop orders. So there a multitude of answes depending on who and why.

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General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...?

« on: January 30, 2014, 06:16:16 PM »

The day it finished! Based on what we understand the production date is the day the car finished and was billed to the dealer.