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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dealer trade?
« on: April 29, 2016, 12:53:23 PM »
Guys, in dealer trades the p-o-p will reflect the selling dealer,

the window sticker, car shipper all of the GM factory prepared paper will reflect the original purchasing dealer

seldom if ever did they go back and change original GM documents because simple fact is GM sold it to a different dealer.
and if it was dealer traded the p-o-p usually is the only thing that reflects the selling dealer.

You could have a hand written dealer invoice I guess, but I would expect all GM paper to show original purchasing dealer.

It is my understanding that the paperwork is all from the selling dealer, not the original purchasing dealer from the NCRS report. But maybe I am wrong.

that is what Austin stated; the NCRS paper lists the OH dealer, and Austin's 'other' original paperwork from the dealer in MI.   It just means that the car was shipped from the factory to the Ohio dealer, and a 'dealer to dealer' trade from the OH dealer to the MI dealer where the car was sold to satisfy the customer order...   Happened/and happens/ all the time.

Yes dealer trades happened in 1960's and today, but the paperwork from GM reflects original purchasing dealer, not final selling dealer, even today if you get your window sticker on a vehicle your selling dealer traded for it will reflect the original dealer your dealer got it from before he sold it to you.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Dealer trade?
« on: April 27, 2016, 01:28:17 PM »
Guys, in dealer trades the p-o-p will reflect the selling dealer, the window sticker, car shipper all of the GM factory prepared paper will reflect the original purchasing dealer, seldom if ever did they go back and change original GM documents because simple fact is GM sold it to a different dealer and if it was dealer traded the p-o-p usually is the only thing that reflects the selling dealer. You could have a hand written dealer invoice I guess, but I would expect all GM paper to show original purchasing dealer.

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General Discussion / Re: Hot August Nights 2015; Reno, NV 3-9 Aug
« on: July 29, 2015, 01:25:58 PM »
Yes, I was involved with NCRS as a director, officer, team leader, national judging chairman and document services manager for many years, I lobbied/convinced them they owed it to the hobby to offer the services they now provide you and actually produced the first 1500 or so reports that were completed. I am no longer involved in that program or with NCRS other than as a member.

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General Discussion / Re: Hot August Nights 2015; Reno, NV 3-9 Aug
« on: July 28, 2015, 08:00:39 PM »
I'll be there even though you guys don't know me I have been a member for a while, I'm a Corvette guy that now works along with Jerry MacNeish as an independent contractor to Barrett-Jackson.

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General Discussion / Re: Chevrolet dealer location
« on: November 14, 2014, 03:32:35 PM »
There are some cases where dealerships had two consecutive numbers, I'm not sure why and pretty sure NCRS does not know why that happened, it seems to be random but there are several dealers with two numbers it is possible it could be Central Chevrolet, I would suggest you look for original central documentation and see if there is anything showing 06-114.

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General Discussion / Re: May 1968 trim tag irregularities
« on: September 16, 2014, 07:54:46 PM »
There is a problem with may & june production number # because may numbers show twice as many build as any other month on Norwood cars. Have a 06a car with that starts with 449---. Have a one owner 06b car that starts with 453---.
Well, there's asterisks next to the data and this statement is in bold on the page: "The data for some months (especially May and June 68 at Norwood) deviate significantly from actual build dates,....."

If Kurt thinks the Data from NCRS is confusing, I would suggest you have it rechecked by NCRS for accuracy, mistakes are often times easy to make reading microfiche digitization's.

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Send an email to the email address we communicated through. I will makecsurecitvgets handled when I return to the office mid to late next week.

Roy

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Thanks to NCRS, I received my shipping report today.
Order number - 912 (time to delivery was exactly 30 days as promised which is good considering it had to come to Australia).
Dealer code 107 in zone 19.
Dealer - Courtesy Chevrolet, Medford, Oregon.

I've searched but cannot find any information on this dealership except for one in Arizona and another in San Jose. Does anyone have any info on them or know where I could start looking?

Ue, with Roy now gone, I'm just curious. Who signed your report?

I signed it, mailed it before the changes happened.

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so it seems to me they threaten law suits because somebody speaks their mind ? won`t correct a judging guide that has been wrong for a decade ? then close down the documentation service that makes them money ? it sure does seem like some big ego`s clashing and not playing nice. kind of like school yard bullies. i guess charging 50.00 just to see where a car was sold new they maybe should keep it going. lets see, 200,000 plus camaros, now add how ever many nova`s and chevelles that adds up to alot of coin. interesting to see where this goes. great read by the way, thanks for posting the link.

Eldon - not defending NCRS here for sure but before you put to much stock in what you read from the whiners, you should try and find an organization that has done a better job of promoting restoration in the car hobby world. The recent actions by the current directors are not reflective of how the organization got where it is.









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I'm pretty sure the service will continue, I'm not privy to any of the details, do not know the plans, or who will process the stuff.

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Guys two answers, zone 21 dealer 1 was overseas distribution, some cars were order by servicemen stationed overseas and delivered overseas, some were ordered by servicemen and delivered state side when they returned and some were exported to foreign countries. all of those things were handled by the overseas distribution division.

Secondly I am no longer involved with NCRS in any shape form or fashion, I'm proud of what this service provides, I'm proud of my service record to NCRS, I'm proud of the lifetime achievement award presented to me last July., I wanted to continue working on this project but will not be doing that. 

I no lkonger have access to any of the information.

Enough said.

Sorry

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Hello everyone!!!!   Just received my dealer info and zone office number.   Also included was the build date of my 1969 Camaro RS/SS.  My cowl tag shows car was built "02D".
Per the letter from NCRS, car was built 3-10-69.   Would this "gap" in time be the time it took for someone back in the day to enter this info once the car was actually built???
Roy, please feel free to pipe in on this info if you can.  Thanks for all you have done here for everyone.    Don

The date will coincide with the month on your P.O.P

Not sure I agree with that what if your car sat on a lot unsold for several weeks even months? The P.O.P is filled out when the car sold, isn't it?

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Thank you for the comment on this issue .  Anyone else here, feel free to comment also.  Would also like Roy Sinor's views on this.

John explained better than I could

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Hello everyone!!!!   Just received my dealer info and zone office number.   Also included was the build date of my 1969 Camaro RS/SS.  My cowl tag shows car was built "02D".
Per the letter from NCRS, car was built 3-10-69.   Would this "gap" in time be the time it took for someone back in the day to enter this info once the car was actually built???
Roy, please feel free to pipe in on this info if you can.  Thanks for all you have done here for everyone.    Don

The date will coincide with the month on your P.O.P
Were there any 9N7xxxxx Camaro's?

Mine,,,,,,.9N704511
You got something special for those?

No, but we are having thoat series of numbers rechecked to make sure we did not miss some of them.

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So I guess if you have a car sent to a Zone office, you are done. No way to find out anything correct??
Dealer 0 Zone 30.

It would appear that we're SOL. :(

Not necessarily guys, contact the current zone office, see who was the zone manager or his assistant try to contact one of them. Maybe you have Mr. Perkin's Camaro, or Mr. Campbell's Camaro, or the Camaro that went to the New York Worlds Fair, if you just quit you won't find out anything for sure.

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