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391  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 1969 Z/28 (X-33) Trim Tag on: July 08, 2013, 09:52:22 PM
Looks also like the very last production day of January - last VIN out according to other threads was 589720 for January, so this car is 303 away from January 31st, Feb. 1 or 2 for the last of the production week. 912/day, so pretty late January 01C. My Z is an 01C, body code starts with 229 (this one is 231), MSO is Jan. 28th. Dates/numbers support themselves, as was stated.

Regards,
Steve
392  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 350/325? on: July 08, 2013, 04:26:03 PM
Yeah, an engine that 'winds up quickly' gets my adrenaline going... *G*...  and I dont' care for boat anchors.. er..  big blocks ..  either.  *G*


Gary,

Born a small block guy myself, but "there is no substitute for cubic inches". I always thought 8 grand in my Z was the ultimate thrill (after rolling through the water at my local Shoney's) until I tried the same thing with the vehicle in the pics, which made a believer out of me - even a warmed-up LS5 motor was capable of scaring the daylights out of my wife, and swapping ends after mild pressure on the accelerator pedal. Maybe you just haven't driven the right combination to convince you -

(The rest of the story: I sold this car year before last to afford my '68 Z - wife said if I brought another one home, one would have to go, or she would - )

Regards,
Steve
393  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: L48/M35 ZL2 air cleaner finish opinion on: July 07, 2013, 09:18:41 PM
Underside -
394  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / L48/M35 ZL2 air cleaner finish opinion on: July 07, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
Gentlemen,

   Please check out the following pics and give me an opinion on the finish - too dull, or close ? I selected the paint based on an NOS ZL2 manual cleaner that I have - I have seen finishes on other cars run the gamut from patent leather shoe gloss to flat. This particular paint is Dupli Color gloss black, and it turned out a close match to my NOS cleaner.

   I welcome all opinions - just don't get too brutal. This was my first air cleaner restocreation -

Regards,
Steve
395  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Check out this Trim Tag on: June 26, 2013, 12:13:16 AM

Are you sure they haven't been replaced.

We are not discussing Z28's, but X77 never had gills / style triim and X33 includes those.

Hard to be 100% positive, since I haven't owned it since new, but all seams, welds, and landmarks seem to be 100% factory. Interior inspection of the quarters shows no signs of welded or bondoed holes in the louver areas. The other side - this car was a vinyl top car, so I now have the question as to whether it is an X66, or maybe an X22 Style Trim car. No paperwork with the car, just a 550 lb. P-O-P, black rear cove, SS trim, and N66 wheels. I have read the tables and info about quarter trim on non-X22 SS cars, and also have heard of some of the early COPO cars being X66 cars - I haven't seen all COPO's with quarter trim, either.
My only reason for discussing an X77 vs. X33's was in relation to the Style Trim availability, which I tied to X66/X22 vehicles. Sorry to digress during an open discussion. 

Regards
396  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Check out this Trim Tag on: June 25, 2013, 07:54:50 PM

X66 is not style trim equipped, so it shouldn't have wheel well moldings, but would have the quarter gills.
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Are you sure ? My non-X code (12A) X66 was never drilled for the gills, best way to differentiate between an X22 and an X66 early car IMO (where you lack any paper documentation). My X77 is the same way - no piercings in the quarters, and no gills ever -

Regards,
Steve
397  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: z28 with white stripes, cowl pics on early 69 cars on: June 23, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
Had to be the cowl white first - the firewall line is feathered up to the top edge of the firewall, black over the white. Mine looks like white, body color (LeMans blue), black firewall paint in that order. If anything is different, it could be BC first, then white - awfully hard to tell. Maybe this pic sheds a little light on it -
398  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: GM 3877660 Water Outlet on: June 23, 2013, 05:21:37 PM
As with any GM product, there were probably more than one supplier even on small parts like water necks. Note the two flange marked castings attached - two different fonts, two directions to the numbers (one in, one out). I have heard before that the Corvette restorers prefer one over the other - which is which ? Got to have date implications -

Regards,
Steve

I forgot to add that my 01C X77 has it on the neck - same outlet since I bought the car in '73. Can't say yes or no if it was replaced before '73, but I worked on the car in '72 - same everything when I bought it a year later.
399  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: GM 3877660 Water Outlet on: June 23, 2013, 11:56:32 AM
As with any GM product, there were probably more than one supplier even on small parts like water necks. Note the two flange marked castings attached - two different fonts, two directions to the numbers (one in, one out). I have heard before that the Corvette restorers prefer one over the other - which is which ? Got to have date implications -

Regards,
Steve
400  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: another trim tag real or fake on: June 21, 2013, 05:43:20 PM
Looks good to me - good swipe of paint remover will do wonders. Tag is pretty straight, rivets look original IMO.

Regards,
Steve
401  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: Is this tear is vent window rubber fixable? on: June 20, 2013, 09:45:22 PM
A dab of 3M Weatherstrip Adhesive (black) should hold it together - that stuff sticks to anything, great bond when it cures out. I patched my door window weatherstrip on the Z11 (top corner of windshield when it dry rotted and fell off, still there after 10 years or better.

Regards,
Steve
402  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Shock Absorber Nut on: June 15, 2013, 10:26:52 AM
More original pics - 40,000 mile Chevy II rears, same nut -

Regards,
Steve
403  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Another ebay claim on: June 13, 2013, 11:18:39 PM
Aw, shucks - I'd hoped it was for real and would drive the value of mine up along with it when it sold for $91K.

One more note - doesn't it drive you crazy when someone spends so much time (and money) "restoring" a car, spends a lot on pictures, composing the ad, and sharing all kinds of catchy statements, and still won't take the time to use a spellchecker or a dictionary ?

Regards
404  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Another ebay 69 with fake tag on: June 13, 2013, 10:48:20 PM
Wonder what it was originally?

Could be anything. One thing for sure - my 12A X66 car does not have the X66 on the tag - I believe this tag is a week early for one, for two it's just too perfect. IMO -

Regards,
Steve
405  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: '69 350/300 hp block number ID... on: June 12, 2013, 09:02:30 PM

Engine casting # is:  8956618. I know there were a few casting #'s used for 69 350's, is this one correct for 350?

I'm trying to make sure that this is not a "DZ" motor, because even though that would be a good find, would not be correct for his '69 pace car (w/ small block).
 

One other block to look for, which appears in a lot of Z11's (like mine), is the "388" block, also marked HA or HB for the suffix code (manual or automatic 300HP 350's) - I have also heard, but haven't personally witnessed it, that there were a very few DZ motors produced with this casting during a shortage or changeover to the next casting number. The 388's also used either "041" or "186" 1.94/1.50 valved 300 horse heads, just the same as 6618's and the eventual 010 blocks. My Z11 is an 03C car, BTW.

Regards,
Steve
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