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346  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: I just purchased a 1968 RS/SS on: November 23, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
Welcome to the group corvette bronze is great looking color! Big block or small block car 4speed  or automatic car. I love 68's the best.

And I thought it was Lemans '69's you were stuck on - shows what I know.

Traitor -

347  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Storing Tires on: November 20, 2013, 12:34:01 AM
I stored two sets of Goodyear originals, one set for 20 plus years, stacked flat (first tire on wood), separated by a single layer of plastic to keep the carbon black from penetrating the white letters. Light coat of protectant on the tires, otherwise they sat in one spot for all that time in a frame garage, not climate controlled, and were dry-rot and check free when I sold them a couple of years back. If you store them for a long length of time upright, they'll probably flat spot (my B.F. Goodrich T/A's were terrible after 19 years in the same spot, no dry rot amazingly, but were quite square). The Goodboots were not mounted; the T/A's were on my LS5 Chevelle, sold in 2011.
BTW - the T/A's did not rot, either, but I sure wouldn't have run them on the street - felt like a Shriner's clown car when I pulled it out of storage.
348  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: new restoration endevour on: November 09, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
I believe I'd save as much of the original panels as I could, cut the rust out and replace it. It's only going to get worse - rust never sleeps - this car is a keeper in my estimation, so bite the bullet and get 'er done. I had the opportunity to work on a true survivor car several years back - there were some imperfections in the 100% original paint (quarter panel at the rear window scratches, front stripe, door stripe, front header panel) - a 7000 mile '68 SS 350/295, Corvette Bronze - the then-owner decided to touch it up, and it actually worked - you really could not see the areas that were repainted, the overall effect was outstanding. True, it should have been left alone, but the owner wanted perfection. Point is you can fix the issues without detracting from the car, and help preserve it for the years of enjoyment to come.

The rest of the story - fix was not cheap, $1100 in 1995. Painter was well renowned local guy, painted many of a local collector's Yenkos and others, one of the best I have seen. With color matching today as high tech as it is, color blending shouldn't be a concern if you use the right guy.

Just my 2 cents -

Regards,
Steve
349  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Movie / TV Camaros on: November 04, 2013, 10:01:16 PM
Not surprisingly, no mention of "Bullitt" yet, but it is full of everything, including the yellow '67 coupe at the car wash scene (Duvall and McQueen in the taxi). Car had to be about a year old, or less. I found a pic, but can't resize it -

Love Bullitt! Here's a little closer view of that butternut Camaro...



I see a couple of things I couldn't see in my small pic - wheel well trim, rear bumper guards. Full wheel covers, but I can't make out the type. Also noticed that's Duvall, with McQueen approaching off his shoulder to the right. Great flick - I still look at the chase occasionally to see all of the cars on the street.

Thanks for expanding it -

Regards,
Steve 
350  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 124379N561026 in database?? on: November 03, 2013, 11:49:57 AM
Earliest possible week. 12A's don't have it, I've seen more than several "X" marked 12B's over the years.

1969 Cowl Tag - X Codes
The Xnn codes were a mid-1969 model addition to the Fisher Body cowl tags of Norwood-built Camaros, starting with the 12B (second week of December) build week. (CRG has found 12B cars both with and without these codes. Our data for all cars in prior weeks is absent this code, and our data for all cars in weeks following contain this code.) These codes were an aid for Fisher body assembly workers to identify body trim and paint changes required for different Camaro models. The codes are divided into two groups: those with the Z21 style trim option and those without the Z21 style trim option.
351  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Movie / TV Camaros on: November 02, 2013, 11:02:02 AM
Not surprisingly, no mention of "Bullitt" yet, but it is full of everything, including the yellow '67 coupe at the car wash scene (Duvall and McQueen in the taxi). Car had to be about a year old, or less. I found a pic, but can't resize it -

Shame McQueen wasn't driving an L78 SS - he probably would've caught the Charger before they got out of town - or the first hill -

352  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: what a joke...... on: November 01, 2013, 11:18:40 PM
I need one badly - might consider trading my L78 "built BBC" for this as the lister suggested -

Not -
353  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: new restoration endevour on: November 01, 2013, 11:14:01 PM
If you're speaking of the rear package shelf, it is a card board type material; depending on your level of desired restoration, either replace it with NOS (they show up regularly on eBay - where I sold mine a couple of years' back), or purchase a quality repop, of which there are several manufacturers to choose from. Those things usually get pretty warped, stained and come apart - I don't know of anyone who could restore one. Be sure to get the one with the front padding attached, as originals were.

Great looking Z, by the way - gotta love those hidden gems and the resurrection from Garage Purgatory. Keep us all informed on your progress -

Regards,
Steve
354  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: welding on cast iron on: November 01, 2013, 11:03:04 PM
Depending on what part of the country you're in, try:

Automotive Restorations, Steve Babinsky, autorestnj@aol.com, 908-236-6400 (NJ)

A&C Casting Rebuilders, Rick Geertsma, www.accastingrebuilders.com, 866-935-3227 (CA)

Casting Salvage Technologies, www.therestorationshoponline.com, 800-833-8814 (VA)

I had my damaged Z passenger side exhaust repaired years ago using the pre-heat/post weld stress relief fusion method espoused by several of these guys, with perfect results - other than a "fresh" appearance, the repair was perfect (and still is, over 20 years later). Worked for me -

Regards,
Steve
355  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 124379N561026 in database?? on: October 29, 2013, 09:14:16 PM
Here are some pictures. Kind of a mess with the flashes placed just right, and the SO light depth of the stampings. I don't know about this one. Pretty scary.......Danny

Sanding scratches to cover feed lines from surfacing ? Too little of the deck surface in the shot to tell. Bulkhead reads "X5" or "X7" - can't tell. Deck stamp looks decent, but the whole thing gets worse all the time. Trans stamp looks decent. I'd bet the X55 stamp was original, then changed to an X77 at some point - you think ?

Like any other car - if all the documentation you have is a cowl tag, you'd best look real close - at everything.

Regards,
Steve
356  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 124379N561026 in database?? on: October 28, 2013, 06:06:39 PM
Tag from the 2008 post and the X77 tag. Subtle differences in font, but the obvious Mongolian is the change from X77 to X55 or vice versa somewhere along the line. What state did it end up in ? The car belongs in a Transformers movie.

Regards,
Steve
357  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 124379N561026 in database?? on: October 27, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
That is not the same tag from the old thread to the new one. The numbers stamped are but the tag isn't.

Mike

I agree it's not the same tag - that's the point. If this is the same owner as the car in the 2008 thread (that's why I asked if it was), it's obvious he had a new X77 tag made using the X55 tag info - maybe because he had a 386 block to go with the car originally, which would work with a 12B X77. Shame on him for a flagrant foul here - 
358  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: 124379N561026 in database?? on: October 27, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
Biggest brass cujones I have read about lately - man oh man, that's brazen. People apparently don't think about e-files and memories.
Same guy, or different owner ?

Regards,
Steve
359  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: goodyear polyglas tires on: October 25, 2013, 11:12:38 PM
No - this is not a right hand drive export Z28. The local photo shop was kind enough to reverse the field when they copied the slide - it's backwards.

Don't worry about the vintage '70's outside rear view mirrors - they are long gone, as are the traction bars. Pic was taken circa '76. Glad I didn't include the vintage mods I was gonna make - aftermarket T tops, lowered, black and gold paint scheme ala The Bandit. CB radio is long gone, too -

Regards,
Steve
360  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: goodyear polyglas tires on: October 25, 2013, 11:00:14 PM
My favorite tire on my Z was always the Goodyear Polyglas. The pic attached may be hard to see, but the tires are H60-15 and F70-15 Goodboots on the factory YH rims - these tires were on the car from '76 until a couple of years ago, when I finally sold them at the local auto flea market. Yes, they were a handful to drive, but a cooler tire never lived. Trips to the local 25 cent car wash always included a Brillo pad to clean the letters with -

Bias ply tires generally follow the ruts that are really on any road, interstates included. Ever notice how you can hydroplane easier in the right lane at speed on an interstate ? It's because of the slight depressions from trucks and heavy traffic in that lane, constantly, that funnel water in the lane, causing it to puddle and wedge under the tires. Radials resist it better, but bias ply builds are more sensitive to changes in the road surface. Couple that with manual steering, quick ratio, and these things were a challenge to drive - but I still love them (for the look !).

Driving my Pace Car home after purchase, some 125 miles in several July thunderstorms, was downright horrendous after so many years of radial tire equipped company vehicles (at high speeds). Car was all over the road, darting everywhere, hydroplaning, and drifting from side to side. First purchase after I got it home was a set of B.F. Goodrich Radial T/A's, which dramatically cured the ills noted on the ride home. I resolved never to run bias plies on the street, but as a show tire Goodyears still have the charisma.

Shame that Goodyear can't build a radial that looks like a Polyglas GT or Wide Tread GT of old -
 
Regards,
Steve
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