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346  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Need Help and advise fixing broken Tic Toc Tach on: February 16, 2014, 02:28:35 PM
Try these people - I have not personally used them yet, but this is where my '68 Tic Toc is going - several threads on this guy in CRG -

347  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Caveat Emptor on: February 16, 2014, 02:20:04 PM

Same auction - both are the 08C car?


348  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Nagging questions about parts and restoration direction on: February 15, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
1) I, like you, bought many NOS parts in the early '80's while they were available and inexpensive. Getting three kids through college the last several years forced my hand - I have had to part with too many rare and desirable things over time, hopefully no more. My advice to you is to keep the needed parts for your restoration, and sell accumulated or speculative parts to finance paint/body/future parts. NOS is getting so scarce and high dollar, my take on it is "if you need it, keep it". NOS fits better, looks better, and will show in the completed restoration. Use repro as a very last resort. I constantly scour swap meets, shows and on line chasing the next good used part, NOS small parts, even years that I don't have represented to use as future swap or sell items - you can make some decent money selling inventory items, while keeping your "core" items intact.

349  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Maintenance / Re: 68 350 engine - how to start on: February 15, 2014, 10:23:55 AM
One way that has worked for me a few times is to remove the plugs and put something light like marvel mystery oil into the cylinders and let it sit for an hour.
While the cylinder lube is sitting remove the distributor and drive the oil pump gear to push (new oil) throughout the motor to get the bearings lubed. I used an old distributor for this. You can use a large screw drive with the handle cut off and put into a drill too. Anything to reach into and engage the oil pump drive shaft.
Move the engine by hand first (flywheel or socket on damper bolt) to see if the motor will 'break lose' and then the using the starter motor, cycle the engine several times to circulate the oil.
 Ready to start-
Find #1 TDC and reinstall the distributor and plugs. Align the rotor to the #1 terminal on the distributor cap and manually rotate the distributor until the points just open (use a meter for this part).
You should be ready to start the motor at this point if the distributor indexing is close.
Adjust the dwell and timing afterwards.

 I believe this to be the safest approach to starting a motor where the bearings may be dry and the rings stuck due to moisture instead of putting in gas and starting 'dry'.


Mike has it right. The only additional steps I would take (I did this same thing with my LS-5 454 that had not been started in 19 years) is make sure you prime the engine oiling by using a priming tool (these specific tools use a bushing that directs the oil through the cam galleries, which feed the main bearing oil galleries). Rotate the crank 90 degrees, pump the pressure up (or give it enough time to pressurize the galleries), do this in 90 degree increments until you have completed one revolution of the crank, This makes sure you won't have a dry bearing surface before you turn it over with the starter. Worked for me - the old Chevelle cranked right up, nary a problem, except for dislodging a few generations of Brown Recluse buddies.

Ditto on the Marvel Mystery Oil squirted into the cylinders. A few pumps with an oil can into each before you start to turn it over insured the rings will break free without a lot of torque.

350  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z/28 Barn Find?? on: February 10, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
I am getting a little tired of seeing "barn finds" - I prefer the term "barn car". Here's my version of a true "barn car" - the car and the barn are legitimate ( a little dark, but you get the picture). Barn storage, even with rodents, birds, skunks, possums and cats, is still preferable to outside storage any day of the week. The causation is lack of space; or really, a lack of funding to expand the garage or build one large enough to accommodate the hobby.

Donations accepted for the "Save the Camaro" fund - LOL.


351  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Identifying Original Console Gauges on: February 08, 2014, 05:34:38 PM

I need to clean my gauges up and get it all back together for going in the car and I have a couple of questions:
1)  My clear plastic lens over the gauges are 'scratched' and dull;  Any recommendations for polishing or replacing them?

Gary -

If your lenses are originals, and you are the detailed restorer that I think you are, look at the part number embossed on your lenses - you should see a "-1" and a "-2" on the two lenses. GM actually used two different part numbers, combined to a single number years later before they went discontinued. Polish them and keep them with the package. If they are tool deeply scratched to look decent, then I guess the solution is to replace.

352  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: Seam sealer on: February 08, 2014, 05:22:56 PM
I used 3M, caulking gun application. Sets up perfectly - looks like factory sealer to me. I have always looked to use 3M products when I can - pretty reliable stuff. Plus, it's usually available through many different outlets -

Just my opinion -

353  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: How big of a tire will fit on the front of a 69 on: February 06, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
My Pace Car rubbed on the actuator covers with FW series rallys and 235 tires. I am now running 205/50/15 TA's on the same FW's, and they do well. A little narrower than I wanted to run; shorter, too, but when I put NOS actuator covers on it I didn't want a repeat rub. Car sits well, almost like it's running 14 X 7 YJ's in stance.

354  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 4053 DZ carburator on: February 06, 2014, 09:42:23 PM
Hard to say if they would flow all of 800, but the combination of large valves, small chambers, big cam and the 472 intake could handle quite a bit. One problem that I know mine had (until I swapped it out for a 850 DP) was a noticeable hesitation, almost a bog, due to the small accelerator pump shot off idle. Fix turned out to be swapping the squirters, or drilling them: ultimate would be to use a Reo 50cc pump and cam, which would give enough fuel to get through the flat spot.

I ran the 850 for years - never a problem with loading up, or bog - of course, the 12.5:1 Manley's and the Sig Erson stick I installed in '75 may have stilted the results somewhat. The 302 would rev to near 8000 in stock form; I did this numerous times, until I snapped a stock spring on cylinder 4 (changed it in the parking lot of my dorm). Still have the spring, and no, it didn't drop the valve. Dang lucky -

355  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What we did during the Deep Freeze and Great Southern Blizzard of 2014 on: February 04, 2014, 09:24:38 AM
If you look closely at the pic, you'll notice there is not a single F body in the house. Every convertible Chevy made from 1926 on, but no Camaros - one good way to tell this is not me !

The Z will get assembled one day - hopefully by me. Too long a stretch like it is.


356  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: What we did during the Deep Freeze and Great Southern Blizzard of 2014 on: February 03, 2014, 11:06:09 PM
I like to kick back and choose which one I'm gonna start today, only I don't want to mess up the laser alignment of the tire treads on the floor. LOL -
357  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: New auto factory in Germany.. Amazing video .. :) on: February 03, 2014, 10:36:49 PM
I have spent a lot of my career calling on and selling to prime automotive plants, including GM Bowling Green, Saturn/GM Spring Hill, Hyundai, Nissan (since before Day1, Smryna, TN when it was a trailer park of offices), Nissan/Decherd Engine, Opel/KS Germany, and visited the MB/Daimler V8 engine facility in Stuttgart, Germany (guided tour of the entire plant, 2000/2001-ish).

I'm glad VW built a plant in Tennessee - they will eventually learn, as Nissan did, that Americans can and will build a better vehicle than what is built overseas.

358  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: 69 Z on ebay - twin on: February 02, 2014, 09:48:02 PM
Good to meet you today, Gary - hope you enjoyed the Nashville hospitality. We enjoyed having you up here -

I don't want to start an uproar, but the tag R&R on this car has me a little concerned, as does the crisp lettering. Obviously new rivets, too.

On the upside, a very good looking vehicle. Price is on up there as well. Give us an update after you check this out -

359  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: So you think you have a Dana, Nickey,Berger Baldwin, etc...? on: January 29, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
Are you suggesting that Chevrolet continued to build passenger cars AFTER 1972?HuhHuh

 Grin      Wink

Gary - do you not consider a 180 hp 1985 Z/28 to be a passenger car ? Or are you suggesting the 1980 Citation was a sports car (drove both) ? I'm confused -

Just kidding, of course. I did think a lot of my 1976 Malibu Land Barge.

Back on the thread - I do think even the dealer ship to and completion date for two of my vehicles is worthwhile - especially when I don't have that bit of info. One more piece to the puzzle.

Regards -
360  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: nice ZL1 clone in france on: January 28, 2014, 10:44:01 PM
An excellent job - Surely compounded by the fact that parts sourcing in Europe has got to be an expensive event.

Congratulations to the owner/builder - beautiful car.

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