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31  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Restoration / Re: VE3 bumper on: November 15, 2014, 11:27:36 AM
Inners - my originals are black, from what you can see. The tops got overspray from a repaint in '75 - otherwise they have some black remaining. Try to get a shot of them today -

Outers - black, definitely, either semi flat or semi gloss, difficult to tell by the remnants on my originals. The VE3 was listed on my dealer invoice as " Spc front bumper"; about the only significant option on my X77 -

Apologize for the condition - maybe this will goad me into restoring it (off the car since 1980).

Regards,
Steve
32  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1967 Dipstick...3896912? on: November 13, 2014, 12:27:58 AM
I've got one of the original design, but I'll have to dig it back out due to the group picture below doesn't isolate the handle with the part numbered pic.

I'll get to it as soon as I can -

Regards,
Steve
33  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: ebay 69 Z on: November 04, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
Couple of things just aren't quite kosher. I blew the pic of the pad stamp up and turned it around - you get the suggestion there is something stamped to the left of the engine code, heavily, and filled with paint or something to try and mask it. Speaking of stamp, my X77 is an 01C, too - the "0125" date is getting mighty close to the build date of the car (my MSO is 1/28). He never mentions the casting date of the block, either, and no pic. Partial VIN on the trans doesn't look anything like mine, either. Pretty car, though, in spite of the flaws. Wish people would be careful with statements concerning authenticity -

Regards,
Steve
34  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 X66 SS Headlight Bezels? on: October 25, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
Finals -

Part numbers - 3935927, 3935928 (-1 and -2 casting suffix)
   "        "      - 3962901, 3962902 (3935927-1, 928-2 casting numbers)

Regards -
35  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 1969 X66 SS Headlight Bezels? on: October 25, 2014, 12:56:43 PM
Hopefully this will help -

Please see the attached pics - I dredged the bezels out of storage this morning. Standard bezels carry a different part number on the box than the chrome ring bezels, but all three have the same casting numbers on the reverse (see all three pics of the part numbers). I have pristine (uncleaned, unrestored) R&L black bezels, chrome ring, for my L78 Cortez 12A SS - plus NOS chromed Argent, and Argent/not chromed bezels for the X77. Unfortunately, the black ones are used, but definitely gonna go back on the car.

Regards -
36  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Decoding/Numbers / Re: Pad stamp check on: October 25, 2014, 12:05:43 AM
Stamp looks legitimate enough, but the reasons for grinding the VIN off are a little disturbing. Whoever ends up with it might at least try to raise them - Five Finger Discount ? Midnight Auto Supply ? Could be anything, including someones half hearted attempt at cloning one. At least somebody wanted the engine to be known as an MO -

JMO -
37  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Looking for recommendations for poly locks for use with 302 on: October 24, 2014, 11:58:51 AM

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But pictured below is the last time I got stranded, my son in law and I were headed to the Good Guys Nostalgia meet in Bowling green KY in 2008 I think it was..  when one of his backed off.. leaving us stranded along I-65.   Fortunately we had chairs in the truck, which made it a bit easier while we waited for the truck/trailer to come get us... and take us back home to get a different vehicle...  Smiley

Looks like somewhere near Ardmore or Lynnville. Glad you made it out in one piece -  Grin
38  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: Part numbers for 67 front and rear glass reveal clips on: October 22, 2014, 11:17:51 PM
You didn't specify vinyl top or not, so I'll give you both:

Windshield, group 10.096: 67-69 Spt. Cpe. 8736586 as required
                                     67 vinyl top 7639528 A.R.
                                     Need lower (sheet metal) clips ? I have those listed also; let me know if you do.

Back glass, group 11.209:  67-68 Spt. Cpe. 8736586 A.R.
                                     67-68 Spt. Cpe (Anode clip) 7741144 A.R.
                                     67 vinyl top 7639528 A.R.

'9's take different clips in some applications, the '67 VT cars were listed separately. Screw in and emergency clips were also listed.

Hope this helps -

Regards,
Steve
39  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Bumper Jack -- Original color on: October 21, 2014, 11:11:11 PM
Don't laugh, but this one worked for me. I used it on the backsides of the SS1 Rally wheels on my '70 LS5 - it's a close match to "putty gray", which is the recommended color for shocks and jack bodies from several sources. Cap color is pretty close to finished color - cheap enough to risk a can to try, IMO -

Regards,
Steve
40  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Very nice Red on Red 69Z on Ebay on: October 19, 2014, 10:57:46 PM
Wow, this one sure seems to be a first class, documented, restored car. What is something like this one worth?  He sure seems confident that it is a very rare 1 of 38 produced in this color combo but I notice Jerry doesn't mention that. If I am reading the POP correctly it looks like it had a M21 originally. Beautiful car!  Maybe a CRG members car?
VIN124379N658389

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-red-1969-camaro-rs-z-28-m-22-concours-macneish-bow-tie-gold-pop-show-car-/331347345618?forcerrptr=true&hash=item4d25d740d2&item=331347345618&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

Pretty car. Jerry's report copy mentioned that the M22 was not original to the car; it was coded for a Dec. '68 built Camaro.

Couple of small items I noticed were out-of-whack with the glowing presentation, but minor compared to the overall detailing of the car. Wish mine looked so good -

41  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 772 fans and unstamped fans on: October 14, 2014, 10:24:14 PM
I guess my unstamped fan for the BB is likely O.K. - now I've got to go dig it out and determine if it's a Hayes or a Switzer, and the pitch.
It definitely could be. This one is original to my 69 SS396 (no stamps on the blades):

Definitely a Switzer fan clutch - looks identical to the '68 Z clutch, except I'm unsure about the bolt circle. Surprised it's not an Eaton - early '69 build date ?

Regards,
Steve
42  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rare Stripe and Bumper Package? on: October 11, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
P.T. Barnum - there's a sucker born every minute.

Even as a parts car (questionable whether any parts on this car are worth salvaging !), with no title, is the sum total of parts left on this thing justify $2100 ? Maybe I'm missing something -

Regards -
43  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rare Stripe and Bumper Package? on: October 11, 2014, 12:01:42 AM
You'll note - impressive care of this historically important vehicle, in the addition of rare NOS door reveal line protectors - extending partway up on the fender. A brave attempt to keep parking lot door dings to a minimum.

Seems to have worked - doors look straight enough to paint as is -
44  Camaro Research Group Discussion / General Discussion / Re: Rare Stripe and Bumper Package? on: October 09, 2014, 09:25:30 PM
So is the Flow-Through rocker panel treatment.

Makes you wonder how many more of these derelicts are still in back yards across the continent - and beyond.

45  Camaro Research Group Discussion / Originality / Re: 772 fans and unstamped fans on: October 09, 2014, 09:19:29 PM
The following is an even better answer from the Archives:

In 1969, the clutched fan changed to a seven-blade design (still 18 inches in diameter) with aluminum fan blades. Cars with AC or K02 received the same fans as the 1969 Z28 and L78/COPO cars. There were two manufacturers of this fan and a mid-year fan pitch change (2 to 2.25"), yielding four variants of this fan.


•The 3937779 fan had a 2" pitch and was made by Schwitzer. It was used early in the 69 production year (until approximately November of 68) and has the part number and month / year stamped on the fan blades.
•The 3947772 fan replaced the 779 fan and had a 2.25" pitch. It was produced by Schwitzer and was used during the remainder of the production year (and through the early 70's) and has the part number and month / year stamped on the fan blades.
•There were two versions of an 'unstamped' fan made by Hayes-Albion. 3947838 was the earlier 2" pitch version and 3956684 was the later 2.25" pitch version. The fans are normally stamped H and FRONT, but no part numbers or dates are stamped on the fans. They are similar to the 772 and 779 fans but with minor design differences (specifically: the design of the center section and details of fan blade rivet attachment).
From what has been observed on original cars, the 3947772 fan and the unstamped fan were used interchangeably and with approximately equal usage. As noted above, the 3937779 fan was only used on early 69 cars.

I guess my unstamped fan for the BB is likely O.K. - now I've got to go dig it out and determine if it's a Hayes or a Switzer, and the pitch.
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